Same Ol' Story

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Offiss, this is what you said earlier in this thread.



This simply is not true, and this is the statement we were responding to. He has 3 fumbles in 5 games on the year. 2 today, 1 last week. 3 does not = 5.

Ok, let's look at the argument you changed it to, his TO ratio over the last 2 seasons.

Going back to last year he has 8 total INTs and he's lost 6 fumbles, or 14 total turnovers in a total of 14 games. Fair enough, there's your average of 1.0 per game, but again that wasn't what you said initially.

And frankly last year is looking more and more like a pure fluke, especially considering the drastic turnaround this year. When can we finally forget about last year and focus on this year??

For the sake of the argument let's look at Ramsey's last two seasons, he has 12 INTs in 8 starts and 2 lost fumbles for a total of 14 turnovers in 8 starts, or 1.75 turnovers per start.

Comparing careers Brunell has 120 turnovers in 135 games played, or .888 turnovers per game.

Ramsey has 40 turnovers in 30 games, or 1.33 per game.

Do I really have to spell every little thing out for you, what do think same old means??????

It means another game another costly TO! Period!

Who's talking about Ramsey? This is about Brunell, and your going to forget about last year than do so, don't start comparing Ramsey with Brunell that in itself from your posts about Brunell doesn't say much about Brunell by comparison.

We can forget all the nonesense and ticky tack comparisons, and all the numbers, the bottom line is the past 2 games could have been won by Brunell, easily, and irregardless he lost both of them, with no help from Portis. that's the bottom line.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by offiss

Do I really have to spell every little thing out for you, what do think same old means??????

It means another game another costly TO! Period!

Who's talking about Ramsey? This is about Brunell, and your going to forget about last year than do so, don't start comparing Ramsey with Brunell that in itself from your posts about Brunell doesn't say much about Brunell by comparison.

We can forget all the nonesense and ticky tack comparisons, and all the numbers, the bottom line is the past 2 games could have been won by Brunell, easily, and irregardless he lost both of them, with no help from Portis. that's the bottom line.

Sorry, let me check my offiss to english translator next time.

'Same old' means '2 years'... gotcha. My bad, not sure what I was thinking.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by offiss

Do I really have to spell every little thing out for you, what do think same old means??????

It means another game another costly TO! Period!

Who's talking about Ramsey? This is about Brunell, and your going to forget about last year than do so, don't start comparing Ramsey with Brunell that in itself from your posts about Brunell doesn't say much about Brunell by comparison.

We can forget all the nonesense and ticky tack comparisons, and all the numbers, the bottom line is the past 2 games could have been won by Brunell, easily, and irregardless he lost both of them, with no help from Portis. that's the bottom line.

I'm sorry, but that is a bunch of BS! Are you completely ignoring the fact that the defense allowed Priest Holmes to catch a screen pass and run to the opposite side of the field AND run all the way for TD? How is that Brunell's fault? One of Brunell's fumbles, the first one, was not his fault. Furthermore, he fumbled deep in KC's territory. And the defense couldn't stop KC from going down field and scoring a field goal. The fact of the matter is, you can't see the forest from the trees, and the easiest thing for you to do is to blame Brunell knowing good and well it wasn't his fault.