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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Looks like Gruden is going to start Jones at RB next week. That pretty much kills any faith I have in Gruden as a head coach. Good coaches don't allow this shit to continue as it has with Jones and his fumbling. Good coaches instill discipline and correction within a team. Gruden doesn't have it.

Jay is a players coach and that's a good thing sometimes and that's y he wants Jones to start because he shows faith and trust

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Jay is a players coach and that's a good thing sometimes and that's y he wants Jones to start because he shows faith and trust

Players coaches generally don't win. Disciplined coaches do. I'd rather a Belichick, Parcells, Johnson type of coach than a Gruden, Dungy, Ryan. Being a players coach doesn't cut it. This is about winning. If it means a man loses his job then so be it. He's being paid to do a job. If he can't do it, find somebody who can. It's obvious that Jones can't do the job.

Gruden has given Jones enough time and patience. It's time to turn the page. Gruden's job and our wins depend on it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Players coaches generally don't win. Disciplined coaches do. I'd rather a Belichick, Parcells, Johnson type of coach than a Gruden, Dungy, Ryan. Being a players coach doesn't cut it. This is about winning. If it means a man loses his job then so be it. He's being paid to do a job. If he can't do it, find somebody who can. It's obvious that Jones can't do the job.

Gruden has given Jones enough time and patience. It's time to turn the page. Gruden's job and our wins depend on it.

I think the players coach vs a hard ass is so overrated. What is Gary Kubiak? He sure couldn't get over the hump in Houston, then he got a great defense and now he's a SB winning coach. Or what about Dick Vermeil? No one was harder on players than that guy was. He couldn't win until he gets Faulk, Warner, Bruce, Holt and he wins a SB.

In the end it's still about players and currently we don't have enough good ones.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think the players coach vs a hard ass is so overrated. What is Gary Kubiak? He sure couldn't get over the hump in Houston, then he got a great defense and now he's a SB winning coach. Or what about Dick Vermeil? No one was harder on players than that guy was. He couldn't win until he gets Faulk, Warner, Bruce, Holt and he wins a SB.

In the end it's still about players and currently we don't have enough good ones.

There is a happy medium between being a players coach, but one with discipline. This isn't Matt Jones third fumble. This is his 8th in 243 attempts. That's about 1 fumble for every 30 carries. No, this is the time to instill discipline in the team and let them know it's not going to be tolerated. I can live with mistakes, just not mistakes that continue to be a pattern. I'm not saying he should be cut, just made inactive for couple games and given a final chance.