Week 10- Around the NFL

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Question: we hear about how amazing their line is, but isn't it just three players? There are a bunch of good teams with at LEAST 2 All-Pro/Pro Bowl type of players on their lines. It's just mind boggling that their LT, C and LG make that line as dominant as it is. We have TW (All-Pro) and Scherff (potential All-Pro) and we're not getting someone running for a billion yards. One could potentially say we have a lot more firepower on offense, yet they're going apeshit.

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Well, no. I mean Tyron Smith is right up their with Trent at LT.
On top of that, they have two other first rounders in Martin (RG) and Frederick (C) and then there is La'el Collins would have been a 1st round pick but for his legal issues. All three of those guys have been really damn good. So they could have a couple of All-Pros and two more Pro-Bowl guys.

Free is the RT and he is solid and a former starting LT.

Our line could get close. Scherff and Williams have All-Pro written all over them. I think Long and Moses will also be really damn good.

Both lines are young so they could be setting the tone for quite some time.

[SFREDSKIN]

I think our line is as good as the cowboys, only difference they have slightly more experience (not much).

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I think our line is as good as the cowboys, only difference they have slightly more experience (not much).

Its a better pass pro not run block

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Its a better pass pro not run block

Kelley would disagree

[mooby]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Well, no. I mean Tyron Smith is right up their with Trent at LT.
On top of that, they have two other first rounders in Martin (RG) and Frederick (C) and then there is La'el Collins would have been a 1st round pick but for his legal issues. All three of those guys have been really damn good. So they could have a couple of All-Pros and two more Pro-Bowl guys.

Free is the RT and he is solid and a former starting LT.

Our line could get close. Scherff and Williams have All-Pro written all over them. I think Long and Moses will also be really damn good.

Both lines are young so they could be setting the tone for quite some time.

Feels like we are selling Tyron Smith short, every time I see his name mentioned when media talks about their o-line they slob on his knob like he's the next Walter Jones/Orlando Pace. Which he might be, I mean I only watch two Cowboys games a year so who knows? But the way the media talks about him and their line it's like they can do no wrong.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Well, no. I mean Tyron Smith is right up their with Trent at LT.
On top of that, they have two other first rounders in Martin (RG) and Frederick (C) and then there is La'el Collins would have been a 1st round pick but for his legal issues. All three of those guys have been really damn good. So they could have a couple of All-Pros and two more Pro-Bowl guys.

Free is the RT and he is solid and a former starting LT.

Our line could get close. Scherff and Williams have All-Pro written all over them. I think Long and Moses will also be really damn good.

Both lines are young so they could be setting the tone for quite some time.

Right. I mean they have three Pro Bowl/All Pro guys currently playing (Collins has been out a while I believe). We have two. For me, I'm like how does that one extra make such a huge difference?

I dunno.

Was seeing some stats that a ton of Zeke's yards are mostly before contact. Pure insanity.

[SirLK26]

Dallas' line has been playing together longer. Give us another offseason of Callahans coaching and maybe an upgrade at LG and we will be as good or better. They dont have anyone like Scherff, who just destroys guys every game. And I would take Williams over Tyron Smith

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Right. I mean they have three Pro Bowl/All Pro guys currently playing (Collins has been out a while I believe). We have two. For me, I'm like how does that one extra make such a huge difference?

I dunno.

Was seeing some stats that a ton of Zeke's yards are mostly before contact. Pure insanity.

Their center is far better than Long or Kory, and the center ties the line together. I was sure we were going to draft a top tier center last draft and I still believe we ought to this year, even in the 1st or 2nd round, if it's a guy Callahan/SM both agree on.

edit: Callahan signed a 3 year deal in Jan 15, so next year is his last under contract. All the more reason to get the last parts to the line and get a year under his coaching if he does decide to leave in 18.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

edit: Callahan signed a 3 year deal in Jan 15, so next year is his last under contract. All the more reason to get the last parts to the line and get a year under his coaching if he does decide to leave in 18.

OR...extend Callahan's contract. That's a no-brainer, IMO.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

OR...extend Callahan's contract. That's a no-brainer, IMO.

I still wonder why Dallas didn't. I agree it's a no brainer - if Callahan wants to stay - but I wonder if Callahan was hoping to be next in line here for HC and will look for a HC job when his contract is up.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I still wonder why Dallas didn't. I agree it's a no brainer - if Callahan wants to stay - but I wonder if Callahan was hoping to be next in line here for HC and will look for a HC job when his contract is up.

It was because when Callahan was the o-line coach and running game coordinator in Dallas, he was next in line for the Offensive Coordinator job when it opened up. But when they hired Linehan from outside of the organization to be OC, Callahan was unhappy and was allowed to 'seek other opportunities'.

I know people are tired of hearing how 'great' the o-line is in Dallas. But they would not be where they are today without Callahan.