Still in it: Redskins-Eagles Post Game Thread

[SFREDSKIN]

I know Reed is playing hurt but our TE's caught only 2 passes today.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

One guy that hasn't been mentioned is Arie Kouandjio, I want to see him stay as the starter at LG moving forward.

Breeland had a bad 1st half, but I thought he redeemed himself in the second half with a sack and forced fumble.

Yep, I told weeks ago Lauvao better step his game up if he wants to be sure he keeps his starting job, was laughed upon (still hurts... LOL). I think Lauvao regressed since, and Kouandjio made the most of his playing time.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

One guy that hasn't been mentioned is Arie Kouandjio, I want to see him stay as the starter at LG moving forward.

Breeland had a bad 1st half, but I thought he redeemed himself in the second half with a sack and forced fumble.

I thought Kujo was fairly terrible yesterday....he had a tough assignment, but I saw him get dominated in pass pro a couple times and flat out killed on run blocking. Lauvoa is better. Sullivan was decent yesterday. Maybe put Spencer Long in at LG Sullivan at Center.

I think we should slide Bree into slot coverage, see if that helps.

[Chico23231]

I thought we were really bad today in a lot of areas. Thank god the eagles are terrible because we probably lose to 2/3rds of the other teams in the league. Doug Peterson is a rookie coach and it shows.

I thought our dline play today was atrocious against a very average Oline. We are extremely soft up the middle and it seems to be getting worse. We will see how it goes next week. Shame about Cravens...our first 2 draft picks seem to be pretty injury prone.

[skinsfan69]

Yeah terrible play by Everette. He has to know that he has to let the returner catch the ball. He didn't even attempt it. Never let up, just went for the kill shot. He's going to be getting fined as well he should.

[Defensewins]

Just win baby!
That was ugly today.
Our Redskins are really missing too many pieces to do anything this year. That was hard to watch today.
I will say at the risk of pissing off some, when we started the season with Kedric Golden as our #1 NT, I knew our FO was not serious about winning this year.
Our FO basically decided this is a re-building year to be written off. There was zero real attempt to upgrade the DL in Free Agency with a difference maker, that initially pissed me off.
Then drafting a WR high when we are loaded at WR.?.?.?
That pissed me off again.
I like our GM and nobody is perfect. But he has to start to re-build the defense or we will continue to flounder fighting to beat terrible teams like today. The Eagles are decimated at O-line and they nearly beat us. We are not very good.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Just win baby!
That was ugly today.
Our Redskins are really missing too many pieces to do anything this year. That was hard to watch today.
I will say at the risk of pissing off some, when we started the season with Kedric Golden as our #1 NT, I knew our FO was not serious about winning this year.
Our FO basically decided this is a re-building year to be written off. There was zero real attempt to upgrade the DL in Free Agency with a difference maker, that initially pissed me off.
Then drafting a WR high when we are loaded at WR.?.?.?
That pissed me off again.
I like our GM and nobody is perfect. But he has to start to re-build the defense or we will continue to flounder fighting to beat terrible teams like today. The Eagles are decimated at O-line and they nearly beat us. We are not very good.

Watching the eagles pound the middle on 3rd and short...4th and short with a qb sneak with ease is about as frustrating as it gets as a fan. We need 2 new starters on the dline.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Just win baby!
That was ugly today.
Our Redskins are really missing too many pieces to do anything this year. That was hard to watch today.
I will say at the risk of pissing off some, when we started the season with Kedric Golden as our #1 NT, I knew our FO was not serious about winning this year.
Our FO basically decided this is a re-building year to be written off. There was zero real attempt to upgrade the DL in Free Agency with a difference maker, that initially pissed me off.
Then drafting a WR high when we are loaded at WR.?.?.?
That pissed me off again.
I like our GM and nobody is perfect. But he has to start to re-build the defense or we will continue to flounder fighting to beat terrible teams like today. The Eagles are decimated at O-line and they nearly beat us. We are not very good.

Our GM isn't a spender in FA and felt Doc was BPA. He did draft Fuller, Cravens, a d linemen from Temple and the LB from BC. That is probably how he's going to upgrade and approach FA the same as he has. If someone like Norman comes available make a run at him, otherwise sign low bargain players like Hood, Ricky Jean and Foster

Some of these drafted players that are in the system hopefully start to come through for us next year. The two that I mentioned, Spaight and and a few more. We also have extra picks in this upcoming draft class. I like what SM is doing. Remember, the other way ( gasing up Redskins One, winning the off season) DID NOT work. Remember????

One of the reasons we're short on talent is cause of the RG3 trade. By my count that's 4 highly drafted players that are not here. Those guys should be starters for us, or contriburing. You don't swing and miss like that and don't feel it.

So despite all that we are still in the hunt. I'm happy where we're at, even though it's hard watching this defense. Help is on the way and I expect that will be via the draft, and maybe a free agent or two..

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Our GM isn't a spender in FA and felt Doc was BPA. He did draft Fuller, Cravens, a d linemen from Temple and the LB from BC. That is probably how he's going to upgrade and approach FA the same as he has. If someone like Norman comes available make a run at him, otherwise sign low bargain players like Hood, Ricky Jean and Foster

Some of these drafted players that are in the system hopefully start to come through for us next year. The two that I mentioned, Spaight and and a few more. We also have extra picks in this upcoming draft class. I like what SM is doing. Remember, the other way ( gasing up Redskins One, winning the off season) DID NOT work. Remember????

One of the reasons we're short on talent is cause of the RG3 trade. By my count that's 4 highly drafted players that are not here. Those guys should be starters for us, or contriburing. You don't swing and miss like that and don't feel it.

So despite all that we are still in the hunt. I'm happy where we're at, even though it's hard watching this defense. Help is on the way and I expect that will be via the draft, and maybe a free agent or two..

Solid post. Our d will take a big leap next year. The younger guys will have more experience, we'll pick up some low costs depth in FA, and I'm sure the BPA in the draft will magically be 80-90% defensive players (as it should be).

And Breeland will get his swagger back. He's too physically talented and has played well before. Just needs to get his mind right. If we have good Breeland back, that alone would make our defense way better.

I want to make the playoffs this year more so to keep building a streak from last year. Not gonna win the Super Bowl this year.

[mooby]

How did I forget Baushad Breeland? He still played like ass today, admitted he was better in the second half but not by much. No way I'd rely on him next year. He played like ass for 8 consecutive quarters, there's no way I let him off the hook for the 2nd half. Did anyone notice how Dunbar was getting picked on in the second half too? Good kid but he was getting exposed too. And when he's getting picked on it's easy to forget about Breeland.

Another negative: When your d is so bad the opposing coach doesn't even have to think about going for it on 4th down, he just does. Total lack of respect, and well deserved too. When you have 3rd and 14 and you turn it into a 4th and 1, I mean our d deserves all the scorn they get. You used to love those situations, now I just sit there wondering if the drive is gonna stop before they score or not.

I will give the d some credit, we have our best record at this stage in years and we wouldn't be winning if they were giving up points as much as they give up yards. But the games where they don't get stops turn into easy wins for our opponents, like the Dallas/Cards game.

As for Everett, the rules all state you have to give the PR time to catch the ball. He didn't, at all. If that was Crowder back there we'd be up in arms over it. A good punt defender slows down as he reaches the catch spot, then waits for the guy to catch it before he hopefully lowers the boom using his shoulder. Everett did none of those things, he just went straight for the head. It doesn't matter how short Sproles is, or what angle he took. You have to give him the time and space necessary to make the catch.

I know this is a lot of bitching over a win, but this team has a lot of room for improvement. We could be talking about a loss if the d doesn't get to Wentz on the last play of their drive.

Rocnrik, just because I believe we can make the playoffs doesn't mean I think we will go far, all it takes is a good defense to shut down our offense and we probably don't stand a chance. If we did make the playoffs, I'd put good odds on getting bounced in the first round, either by Seattle or the Packers. The Packers look to be rounding into form after that beatdown today, and I know better than to bet against Seattle in the playoffs, especially at home.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by mooby

How did I forget Baushad Breeland? He still played like ass today, admitted he was better in the second half but not by much. No way I'd rely on him next year. He played like ass for 8 consecutive quarters, there's no way I let him off the hook for the 2nd half. Did anyone notice how Dunbar was getting picked on in the second half too? Good kid but he was getting exposed too. And when he's getting picked on it's easy to forget about Breeland.

Another negative: When your d is so bad the opposing coach doesn't even have to think about going for it on 4th down, he just does. Total lack of respect, and well deserved too. When you have 3rd and 14 and you turn it into a 4th and 1, I mean our d deserves all the scorn they get. You used to love those situations, now I just sit there wondering if the drive is gonna stop before they score or not.

I will give the d some credit, we have our best record at this stage in years and we wouldn't be winning if they were giving up points as much as they give up yards. But the games where they don't get stops turn into easy wins for our opponents, like the Dallas/Cards game.

As for Everett, the rules all state you have to give the PR time to catch the ball. He didn't, at all. If that was Crowder back there we'd be up in arms over it. A good punt defender slows down as he reaches the catch spot, then waits for the guy to catch it before he hopefully lowers the boom using his shoulder. Everett did none of those things, he just went straight for the head. It doesn't matter how short Sproles is, or what angle he took. You have to give him the time and space necessary to make the catch.

I know this is a lot of bitching over a win, but this team has a lot of room for improvement. We could be talking about a loss if the d doesn't get to Wentz on the last play of their drive.

Rocnrik, just because I believe we can make the playoffs doesn't mean I think we will go far, all it takes is a good defense to shut down our offense and we probably don't stand a chance. If we did make the playoffs, I'd put good odds on getting bounced in the first round, either by Seattle or the Packers. The Packers look to be rounding into form after that beatdown today, and I know better than to bet against Seattle in the playoffs, especially at home.

I'm not 100% certain because obviously i'm not out on the field, but the reason why Doug Peterson kept going for it on 4th down was because he had lost John Dorenbos to injury, who was the long snapper, and then Brent Celek, who was the backup long snapper, he got injured too. There was not a third string long snapper and they were literally having tryouts on the sideline, and Zac Ertz ended up "winning" the job. Pederson was going for the short 4th downs because he didn't trust someone to come out there and long snap who had never done it before.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I'm not 100% certain because obviously i'm not out on the field, but the reason why Doug Peterson kept going for it on 4th down was because he had lost John Dorenbos to injury, who was the long snapper, and then Brent Celek, who was the backup long snapper, he got injured too. There was not a third string long snapper and they were literally having tryouts on the sideline, and Zac Ertz ended up "winning" the job. Pederson was going for the short 4th downs because he didn't trust someone to come out there and long snap who had never done it before.

This.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

How did I forget Baushad Breeland? He still played like ass today, admitted he was better in the second half but not by much. No way I'd rely on him next year. He played like ass for 8 consecutive quarters, there's no way I let him off the hook for the 2nd half. Did anyone notice how Dunbar was getting picked on in the second half too? Good kid but he was getting exposed too. And when he's getting picked on it's easy to forget about Breeland.

Another negative: When your d is so bad the opposing coach doesn't even have to think about going for it on 4th down, he just does. Total lack of respect, and well deserved too. When you have 3rd and 14 and you turn it into a 4th and 1, I mean our d deserves all the scorn they get. You used to love those situations, now I just sit there wondering if the drive is gonna stop before they score or not.

I will give the d some credit, we have our best record at this stage in years and we wouldn't be winning if they were giving up points as much as they give up yards. But the games where they don't get stops turn into easy wins for our opponents, like the Dallas/Cards game.

As for Everett, the rules all state you have to give the PR time to catch the ball. He didn't, at all. If that was Crowder back there we'd be up in arms over it. A good punt defender slows down as he reaches the catch spot, then waits for the guy to catch it before he hopefully lowers the boom using his shoulder. Everett did none of those things, he just went straight for the head. It doesn't matter how short Sproles is, or what angle he took. You have to give him the time and space necessary to make the catch.

I know this is a lot of bitching over a win, but this team has a lot of room for improvement. We could be talking about a loss if the d doesn't get to Wentz on the last play of their drive.

Rocnrik, just because I believe we can make the playoffs doesn't mean I think we will go far, all it takes is a good defense to shut down our offense and we probably don't stand a chance. If we did make the playoffs, I'd put good odds on getting bounced in the first round, either by Seattle or the Packers. The Packers look to be rounding into form after that beatdown today, and I know better than to bet against Seattle in the playoffs, especially at home.

We've played three of the top five defenses (Baltimore, Minnesota, Arizona) and won two of those games...probably should have beat the Cardinals too...

Good defenses don't scare me. Barely competent offenses, and halfway decent QBs scare me, because the defense is exploitable.

[skinsfan69]

Eagles O stinks. No wr's. Rookie QB, beat up O-line. I'll take the win though. We are not in a position to bitch about wins...lol.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Eagles O stinks. No wr's. Rookie QB, beat up O-line. I'll take the win though. We are not in a position be bitch about wins...lol.

no such thing as a bad win, also lets not forget Phi has a damn good d