In Scot we trust?

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Not sure I agree that the other teams have dominated us in the draft. You're referencing a lot of first round picks. It's GOOD those worked out, because they definitely should.

I'll give credit to the Cowboys for finding Dak, but I think anyone who can game manage could have done the same thing. I think a lot of people also thought Elliott was the best back to come out in a long time.

I think Crowder is far superior to Shepard, even though Shepard is OK. I think we've been competitive in the draft since Scot's been here. If I really think about it, I can't say one team really has any huge edge.

I was just throwing out examples off the top of my head and Zeke was the only 1st rounder. We got a pro bowl guard at 5th overall and they got a league leading rusher with the #4 overall pick. Collins was a 2nd rounder, Dak a 4th rounder, Shepard a 3rd and Crowder a 4th. Even Gruden is questioning Scot's picks.

I'm all in on Scot and hope some of his other picks turn into good players, but it doesn't seem he's done anything but keep pace with our division rivals. Coming in, I thought he'd give us a big advantage, particularly in the later rounds. Plenty of questionable picks and the free agent decisions have been mediocre at best. That said, I hope he's our GM for years to come. I believe over the long term, he'll outperform the rest of our division and much of the NFC, if not the entire league.

[SouperMeister]

I was VERY disappointed when Scot traded down from our 4th round pick (120 overall) in the last draft, with NT Andrew Billings on the board. In return, we got New Orleans' 5th round pick (selecting Matt Ioannidis) and their 2017 5th rounder. Billings went 122 overall to Cincy, but was injured and spent the season on IR. Most graded Billings as 2nd round talent, so it would not have been a reach for Scot to use our original 4th round pick to fill a GLARING need - a true run-stopping interior lineman with elite strength. Don't know what he saw in Ioannidis, who is just a guy. I hope he proves me wrong and develops into the anchor in the middle of the line that Scot envisioned.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I will agree with you on one point: it seems like every other team in the NFCE but us seems to get some HUGE cog in their team.

Giants got OBJ.
Cowboys got Zeke/Prescott (even though I really don't think he'll improve that much)
Eagles got Wentz.

We got an awesome guard.

Again, I don't think you can definitively say one team has crushed us. I'm with you, I do think we'll be MUCH better over the long term.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I will agree with you on one point: it seems like every other team in the NFCE but us seems to get some HUGE cog in their team.

Giants got OBJ.
Cowboys got Zeke/Prescott (even though I really don't think he'll improve that much)
Eagles got Wentz.

We got an awesome guard.

Again, I don't think you can definitively say one team has crushed us. I'm with you, I do think we'll be MUCH better over the long term.

Agreed. I think my bigger point was to keep the rest of the division in mind when we assess how Scot and his staff is or isn't doing. Maybe it does make sense to grade his performance in a vacuum, but if the rest of the division is doing better with their picks and free agent acquisitions then we're fighting an uphill battle. I want him to kick their assess when it comes to player personnel and think he will in the long run.

[skinsfan69]

The Whitner signing was an effing disaster. Anytime Cleveland doesn't want you then you might not want to bring that guy in. He looked like a 50 year old man in coverage.

[JoeRedskin]

In the famous words of Mr. Parcells: “You are what your record says you are.”

Your final record shows who you are over the course of a season. Maybe it's different in the extreme examples of going 8-0 then 0-8, or thereabouts. Even there, you have shown the talent and ability to win half your games in a 16 game season. Each year is a new year, how many "worsts to first" (and vice versa) does it take to prove that?

We were a 9-7 team last year and are an 8-7-1 team this year - that's who we are right now, and it's an improvement over when we were a 4-12 team or when we finished fourth in the division 8 out of 11 years between 2004 and 2014.

[MTK]

You're confusing winning season with successful season. And the entire staff wasn't fired.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by MTK

You're confusing winning season with successful season.

The two are mutually exclusive? I'm intrigued.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

The two are mutually exclusive? I'm intrigued.

Come on man, you know a one and done playoff run is not what the Cowboys or their fans have in mind. If The Packers come into Dallas and knock you out of the playoffs will you say "hey we won a bunch of games this year and lost a home playoff game - Im good with that"!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

The two are mutually exclusive? I'm intrigued.

Is this real life?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

Is this real life?

Only for the last few weeks. Before that doesn't count. Lol

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Would I rather go out on a winning streak? Absolutely. Is your last half record indicative of the direction of your team as a whole? I 100% disagree. I just think it's some talking point by Kirwan. Were we the team that swept the last few games with RG3 at the helm? Just like everyone else is saying, there are a TON of factors. Everyone wants to go in hot, but if you don't, your team isn't any shittier.

[Schneed10]

He has a point. Aaron Rodgers is 7-0 (aka Sandtrap's version of undefeated) and is about to kick the shit out of his overrated squad.

[Irrefutable]

per Doc Walker..... Mike Pettine seen at Redskin Park (today?)

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

per Doc Walker..... Mike Pettine seen at Redskin Park (today?)

he did a good job in NY