Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by MTK

My opinion on Kirk didn't change today. He's a guy you can build around and win with. Pay him.

My opinion hasnt changed either.Kirk played today like I thought he would,he hasnt shown he can handle the pressure of big games and he shit the bed.The off line didnt help him,the run blocking was shit,but Kirk did himself no favors,he did not play well.I cant help but think Colt would have played better today against the pressure with his mobility.Kirk needs to move around in the pocket more and run occasionally,he has the legs,he's not Dan Marino back there.And that stupid pistol formation they run with Kirk,it never works because Kirk never runs with it.{well it never works for the rb,it occasionally works when they do let Kirk carry it}
Getting back to Colt.I do think he would have handled the pressure of the game and the Giants defense today.Do I think Colt is better then Kirk,no I dont.Do I want Colt to be the starter,no I dont.I'm just saying I think he would have been better today against the Giants,hell he couldnt have been worse.
We have no choice,we need to resign Kirk.Franchise qb's dont grow on trees.Just look at what Houston got with Osweiller.Is Kirk going to be worth the money?We dont know yet,would you say he was worth the 17 mil he made this year? As far as stats go yes,results in winning games,probably not,it's debatable.
But we have no choice,we have to resign him and hope next year he plays better under pressure,defense and playcalling improve,Gruden gets ahold of his clock management and then just maybe Kirk will live up to his contract.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

My opinion hasnt changed either.Kirk played today like I thought he would,he hasnt shown he can handle the pressure of big games and he shit the bed.The off line didnt help him,the run blocking was shit,but Kirk did himself no favors,he did not play well.I cant help but think Colt would have played better today against the pressure with his mobility.Kirk needs to move around in the pocket more and run occasionally,he has the legs,he's not Dan Marino back there.And that stupid pistol formation they run with Kirk,it never works because Kirk never runs with it.{well it never works for the rb,it occasionally works when they do let Kirk carry it}
Getting back to Colt.I do think he would have handled the pressure of the game and the Giants defense today.Do I think Colt is better then Kirk,no I dont.Do I want Colt to be the starter,no I dont.I'm just saying I think he would have been better today against the Giants,hell he couldnt have been worse.
We have no choice,we need to resign Kirk.Franchise qb's dont grow on trees.Just look at what Houston got with Osweiller.Is Kirk going to be worth the money?We dont know yet,would you say he was worth the 17 mil he made this year? As far as stats go yes,results in winning games,probably not,it's debatable.
But we have no choice,we have to resign him and hope next year he plays better under pressure,defense and playcalling improve,Gruden gets ahold of his clock management and then just maybe Kirk will live up to his contract.

Over reaction Monday bro. Calm down. No chance colt McCoy plays better yesterday. Folks around the league and former QBs, (favre, bradshaw, dilfer) etc have all said KC is a franchise QB. If we let him walk that could set us back a long time.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Over reaction Monday bro. Calm down. No chance colt McCoy plays better yesterday. Folks around the league and former QBs, (favre, bradshaw, dilfer) etc have all said KC is a franchise QB. If we let him walk that could set us back a long time.

It's almost not even debating with most of this fanbase. In the NFL staying the course and not over reacting is what the smart organizations do. We'll see where we're at as an organization this off season.

KC didn't get it done yesterday. But his overall body of work speaks for itself. He's the best Qb we've had here in a long while. Let's not forget that.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Over reaction Monday bro. Calm down. No chance colt McCoy plays better yesterday. Folks around the league and former QBs, (favre, bradshaw, dilfer) etc have all said KC is a franchise QB. If we let him walk that could set us back a long time.

LOL I am calm,I'm not one of the ones screaming dont resign him.And to say no chance Colt plays better is purely speculation on your part,just as it was on mine.I think everyone agrees Kirk did not play well yesterday.2 bad picks and no es-capability out of the pocket.To say Colt couldnt have come in and and did better than throwing 2 costly picks and only putting 10 points on the board is not unrealistic on my part.
But again,let me reiterate,I am not calling on Colt to be the starter.I do think Colt can handle the pressure of a big game better and to think he could have not done better yesterday is not unrealistic.

[skinsfan69]

[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1161139]LOL I am calm,I'm not one of the ones screaming dont resign him.And to say no chance Colt plays better is purely speculation on your part,just as it was on mine.I think everyone agrees Kirk did not play well yesterday.2 bad picks and no es-capability out of the pocket.To say Colt couldnt have come in and and did better than throwing 2 costly picks and only putting 10 points on the board is not unrealistic on my part.
But again,let me reiterate,I am not calling on Colt to be the starter.I do think Colt can handle the pressure of a big game better and to think he could have not done better yesterday is not unrealistic.[/QUOTE

What big game has Colt played in that proves your point?

[htownskinfan]

[quote=skinsfan69;1161182]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

LOL I am calm,I'm not one of the ones screaming dont resign him.And to say no chance Colt plays better is purely speculation on your part,just as it was on mine.I think everyone agrees Kirk did not play well yesterday.2 bad picks and no es-capability out of the pocket.To say Colt couldnt have come in and and did better than throwing 2 costly picks and only putting 10 points on the board is not unrealistic on my part.
But again,let me reiterate,I am not calling on Colt to be the starter.I do think Colt can handle the pressure of a big game better and to think he could have not done better yesterday is not unrealistic.[/QUOTE

What big game has Colt played in that proves your point?

Well there hasnt been a lot,but I would say getting his first start ever for the skins in 2014 when we were 2-5 and went into Dallas to play the 6-1 cowboys on MNF with his parents and friends in the stands and going 25-30 for 299 yards and the win.Not what you would call a "big" game,but I would call it a "pressure" situation for him and in prime time no less.
And in college he won 3 out of 4 bowl games and played very well in all 3.As a senior after leading Texas to a 13-0 record probably would have won his 4th bowl game and the national championship if he doesnt get hurt after going 2 for 2.
So thats all I got

[skinsfan69]

[quote=htownskinfan;1161298]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well there hasnt been a lot,but I would say getting his first start ever for the skins in 2014 when we were 2-5 and went into Dallas to play the 6-1 cowboys on MNF with his parents and friends in the stands and going 25-30 for 299 yards and the win.Not what you would call a "big" game,but I would call it a "pressure" situation for him and in prime time no less.
And in college he won 3 out of 4 bowl games and played very well in all 3.As a senior after leading Texas to a 13-0 record probably would have won his 4th bowl game and the national championship if he doesnt get hurt after going 2 for 2.
So thats all I got

Do you mean the Dallas game where he couldn't get the ball to the wr's downfield? Did you also forget about the other games he played in that year? Then he got hurt. Bottom line is if McCoy was better than KC he'd be on the field. The coaches.. Gruden, McVay, Cavanaugh see them up close everyday. They know more than we do. If McCoy was a starting caliber QB another team would have signed him. He's a great backup QB, not a 16 game starter.

And what he did in college doesn't mean anything at this point.

[Michaelt31]

[quote=skinsfan69;1161349]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Do you mean the Dallas game where he couldn't get the ball to the wr's downfield? Did you also forget about the other games he played in that year? Then he got hurt. Bottom line is if McCoy was better than KC he'd be on the field. The coaches.. Gruden, McVay, Cavanaugh see them up close everyday. They know more than we do. If McCoy was a starting caliber QB another team would have signed him. He's a great backup QB, not a 16 game starter.

And what he did in college doesn't mean anything at this point.

The same coaches who had Jones in at running back, or Burton at safety. Ok I hear you!

[htownskinfan]

[quote=skinsfan69;1161349]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Do you mean the Dallas game where he couldn't get the ball to the wr's downfield? Did you also forget about the other games he played in that year? Then he got hurt. Bottom line is if McCoy was better than KC he'd be on the field. The coaches.. Gruden, McVay, Cavanaugh see them up close everyday. They know more than we do. If McCoy was a starting caliber QB another team would have signed him. He's a great backup QB, not a 16 game starter.

And what he did in college doesn't mean anything at this point.

Did you read my other post about Mccoy? I knew someone would jump in and twist this,I never said McCoy should be the starter,read the other post before commenting please