The Anti-Media Media

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

The entire point is that it's not objective. Tell me when the Redskins have ever tried to pass ExtremeSkins off as a source of objective information???

The Redskins promote it on Redskins.com as an unprecedented distribution channel for access to the team, that's it. I can't understand why people are insisting that ExtremeSkins be held to journalistic standards. Just because Snyder places them in the press box, that doesn't mean he thinks they're journalists.

No one is saying they our journalists. But they are going into a professional setting and acting like asses. I'm sure at your work, with whatever you do, if I'm hired as a maintence guy or somthing and put in your office for the day and am jumping up and down screaming, you'd be pissed off too. They are getting paid to go into a professional setting, and acting like jackasses. Bottom line.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

No one is saying they our journalists. But they are going into a professional setting and acting like asses. I'm sure at your work, with whatever you do, if I'm hired as a maintence guy or somthing and put in your office for the day and am jumping up and down screaming, you'd be pissed off too. They are getting paid to go into a professional setting, and acting like jackasses. Bottom line.

So? Why would we care about that? Sure, OK, it's a dick move and unprofessional. So what?

Could it be that some people here at the Warpath are a wee bit jealous of the guys at ExtremeSkins? Is that why we're upset that they disturbed the journalists while they were writing?

I don't get the beef. I don't see why anyone here would care if someone is in the press box yelling and disturbing anybody.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

So? Why would we care about that? Sure, OK, it's a dick move and unprofessional. So what?

Stuff like this only adds to fuel to the fire for the media that already has a strong dislike for Snyder, and in turn it reflects negatively on the fans. Like it or not, these guys represent our fan base and they certainly aren't doing the fan sites any favors with their negative publicity.

Could it be that some people here at the Warpath are a wee bit jealous of the guys at ExtremeSkins? Is that why we're upset that they disturbed the journalists while they were writing?

Jealous? Nah. Ticked off that we got the rug pulled out from under us... definitely.

Snyder takes a lot of crap in the press without a doubt, some deserved and some not, but he would have been better served by taking the high road rather than stooping down to the media's often immature and uninformed level.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Stuff like this only adds to fuel to the fire for the media that already has a strong dislike for Snyder, and in turn it reflects negatively on the fans. Like it or not, these guys represent our fan base and they certainly aren't doing the fan sites any favors with their negative publicity.

Interesting point. I for one certainly don't care if anything adds fuel to the fire of hatred for Dan Snyder. If journalists want to continue asserting inaccuracies such as the favorite "Dan Snyder is doing a crappy job because he's meddlesome", then they can go ahead for all I care. I don't care if it adds fuel to the fire and makes the media dislike Snyder more. Either the media does their jobs right, or they don't. If they don't do their jobs right, then I say piss off to them. I couldn't care less.

If that reflects poorly on the fan base, now that's something that I could care even less about. I'm interested in good objective journalism first and foremost. So if the middle finger I'm pointing at bad journalists reflects poorly on me as a fan, then let it. Maybe that's a concern to some, but I'm not one of them.

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Jealous? Nah. Ticked off that we got the rug pulled out from under us... definitely.

Snyder takes a lot of crap in the press without a doubt, some deserved and some not, but he would have been better served by taking the high road rather than stooping down to the media's often immature and uninformed level.

In the end, I guess I just don't care if Dan Snyder was the nice guy, or if Dan Snyder was a dick. I just care if he:
1) Tries his guts out to put a winning team on the field
2) Makes being a fan of the team more fun. And reading fluffy interviews with Coach Gibbs on ExtremeSkins is fun to me.

[joecrisp]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

So? Why would we care about that? Sure, OK, it's a dick move and unprofessional. So what?

Could it be that some people here at the Warpath are a wee bit jealous of the guys at ExtremeSkins? Is that why we're upset that they disturbed the journalists while they were writing?

I don't get the beef. I don't see why anyone here would care if someone is in the press box yelling and disturbing anybody.

I don't get why I would be jealous of them. I was doing the whole "hanging out with the players and coaches" thing a long time before they came around, and I'm sure I'll be a doing a lot more of that in the future, regardless of whether I'm directly affiliated with the team or not.

My beef is, in fact, with the manner in which the Redskins have conducted their entire anti-med... err... "media relations" operation. The ExtremeSkins situation is a prime example of why the media and the Redskins have been at odds for so long now. The behavior or those fans in the pressbox isn't unlike the behavior of Snyder and Swanson towards the press corps. In fact, it's quite representative.

Apparently, Messrs Snyder and Swanson aren't familiar with the old adage, "kill them with kindness." They're taking the 21st century craze of media-bashing to new, unexplored heights.

I'm sure that will win them a lot of fans in the press. I'm sure Redskins fans won't care. I'm sure and everyone will stop reading all news sources other than those directly from the team, and will chuckle happily right along with Larry Michael as he feeds them the "unfiltered" daily scoop of fluff straight from Redskins Park. I'm sure they'll grin smugly along with good Ol' Art Mills as he boisterously details his latest anti-media antics. I'm sure nobody will know anything other than this: the Redskins are a great, wonderful and beneficent franchise, with only the most marvelous of owners, whose sole raison d'etre is to make the fans happy. Ignorance truly is bliss, isn't it, Redskins fans?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by joecrisp

I don't get why I would be jealous of them. I was doing the whole "hanging out with the players and coaches" thing a long time before they came around, and I'm sure I'll be a doing a lot more of that in the future, regardless of whether I'm directly affiliated with the team or not.

My beef is, in fact, with the manner in which the Redskins have conducted their entire anti-med... err... "media relations" operation. The ExtremeSkins situation is a prime example of why the media and the Redskins have been at odds for so long now. The behavior or those fans in the pressbox isn't unlike the behavior of Snyder and Swanson towards the press corps. In fact, it's quite representative.

Apparently, Messrs Snyder and Swanson aren't familiar with the old adage, "kill them with kindness." They're taking the 21st century craze of media-bashing to new, unexplored heights.

I'm sure that will win them a lot of fans in the press. I'm sure Redskins fans won't care. I'm sure and everyone will stop reading all news sources other than those directly from the team, and will chuckle happily right along with Larry Michael as he feeds them the "unfiltered" daily scoop of fluff straight from Redskins Park. I'm sure they'll grin smugly along with good Ol' Art Mills as he boisterously details his latest anti-media antics. I'm sure nobody will know anything other than this: the Redskins are a great, wonderful and beneficent franchise, with only the most marvelous of owners, whose sole raison d'etre is to make the fans happy. Ignorance truly is bliss, isn't it, Redskins fans?

If any member of the media allows Dan Snyder's general contempt for the journalists to alter the way they report or represent their opinions, then they're doing a shitty job and shouldn't be in the journalism business. If Snyder takes away their press box space and they change their reporting as a result of that, then they're not very objective now are they?

It's a journalist's job to report objectively, without bias, no matter how much of a war Snyder wages on them. I suspect that not all journalists are petty, I suspect some will still report objectively. They're the ones I'll read.

And if they do in fact report objectively, Snyder's contempt will wane.