Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

[metalskins]

Alright, I understanding doing your due diligence and all of that, but I'm starting to see that it really isn't about doing your due diligence as much as it's the Redskins brass not being able to sell the job to these candidates. We can kid ourselves all the want and think the front office is just wanting to make sure they get it right, but it really isn't up to them. It's up to the candidates. In this situation, it's the candidates with the upper hand and the ones having to "think it over". Come on, what's to think over with a guy like Gus Bradley, Mike Pettine, or Wade Phillips? Nothing. All have been very successful as defensive coordinators, all have head coaching experience. You hire the first one that says I DO!

Look at what Wade Phillips said. He didn't think the Redskins had enough talent on defense. He might be right, but that is when the front office says, "It looks like we're short on talent on defense, but we do have a good core group of guys to build around that I think you can get excited about. These guys are smart and hungry, and they're very receptive to coaching and wanting to be led by someone who can maximize their talents. Scot is going to be focusing much of his attention in this offseason on bringing in some solid guys who are going to upgrade our defense. We know you are the guy who can maximize the talent we provide you. We truly believe you're our missing piece to the puzzle!"

These candidates are looking at the situation and seeing that there is a fourth year head coach who could be on the hot seat if the season isn't going any better than the previous, that there is a lack of talent on defense, and that if the head coach is fired at the end of this season, he's probably one and done.

While we as fans look at our team in a more optimistic light and think this is a perfect opportunity for a DC to want to be in, the truth is, it doesn't look very rosy for the candidates. Our front office needs to be diligent, but they need to also work fast and pretty much be willing to move the sun and moon for these guys to get them in. One more day of not naming a new defensive coordinator makes me think we will wind up promoting Greg Manusky, and while that might wind up turning out better than I expect, I don't believe this is the right time for Jay Gruden and the Redskins to be taking a chance on a guy who hasn't had much success as a DC.

And on top of that, our offensive coaches are starting to get raided. We can't allow Coach Callahan to get snatched from us - he's done a great job with our offensive line. The Redskins need to brace for an exodus of coaches if they want to follow McVay, so the Redskins need to get a deal done with a DC.

Looks like Pettine is about the only guy left.

[bigant]

can we offer the job to bradley and see what he says?

[SFREDSKIN]

Don't be surprised if Manusky is our next DC and Ron Jeremy (Jim Tomsula) gets hired as a DL coach.

From Matt Barrows (covers the 49ers)

Am told former #49ers HC Jim Tomsula is on Washington's radar as that team fills out its coaching staff. Tomsula was out of football in '16.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Don't be surprised if Manusky is our next DC and Ron Jeremy (Jim Tomsula) gets hired as a DL coach.

From Matt Barrows (covers the 49ers)

Am told former #49ers HC Jim Tomsula is on Washington's radar as that team fills out its coaching staff. Tomsula was out of football in '16.

Which will confirm my biggest fears. Neither Bradley nor Pettine wants to come here and we have no choice but to promote from within and hire guys who couldn't get hired last year. This is horrible.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Which will confirm my biggest fears. Neither Bradley nor Pettine wants to come here and we have no choice but to promote from within and hire guys who couldn't get hired last year. This is horrible.

Sadly, Washington inside the coaching circles isn't looked at as a good place to go. Guys like Phillips or Bradley probably have options and will go elsewhere. But Pettine was out of coaching last year. I'm sure he'd take the DC job in a heartbeat.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sadly, Washington inside the coaching circles isn't looked at as a good place to go. Guys like Phillips or Bradley probably have options and will go elsewhere. But Pettine was out of coaching last year. I'm sure he'd take the DC job in a heartbeat.

I hear you, but the fucking Rams are?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I hear you, but the fucking Rams are?

If you're a unemployed DC which D would you rather coach? I'd want to coach the Rams. They just have more pieces to work with than we do.

[SFREDSKIN]

Jason Tarver is also in the mix as DC.
Report: Another candidate for Redskins coordinator revealed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Tarver

[Bishop Hammer]

Rob Ryan is being interviewed today.

https://www.google.com/amp/profootba...hms-tmobile-us

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Which will confirm my biggest fears. Neither Bradley nor Pettine wants to come here and we have no choice but to promote from within and hire guys who couldn't get hired last year. This is horrible.

Dude you have a way of racing way ahead of the facts. Could it be that they're just not done interviewing? Chill.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Dude you have a way of racing way ahead of the facts. Could it be that they're just not done interviewing? Chill.

Maybe saying that neither Bradley nor Pettine truly wants the job is jumping to conclusions, but at the same time, with their resumes as defensive coordinators, I'm not seeing why the Redskins would want to interview someone like Rob Ryan unless they feel neither of those guys are still in play.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Don't be surprised if Manusky is our next DC and Ron Jeremy (Jim Tomsula) gets hired as a DL coach.

From Matt Barrows (covers the 49ers)

Am told former #49ers HC Jim Tomsula is on Washington's radar as that team fills out its coaching staff. Tomsula was out of football in '16.

Tomsula might be a good d-line coach, but Manusky as coordinator reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally stretches my faith in Jay. No idea how a retread like that would even be in consideration. If they get the job/s it would take a major infusion of talent for me to even be confident about next year. The fact that Wade had concerns about our talent and we think we're a couple pieces away tells me they are looking for a guy who also thinks we're a couple pieces away. My long term outlook would be very poor if that's the case.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by mooby

Tomsula might be a good d-line coach, but Manusky as coordinator reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally stretches my faith in Jay. No idea how a retread like that would even be in consideration. If they get the job/s it would take a major infusion of talent for me to even be confident about next year. The fact that Wade had concerns about our talent and we think we're a couple pieces away tells me they are looking for a guy who also thinks we're a couple pieces away. My long term outlook would be very poor if that's the case.

Manusky did a great job here in SF, unfortunately the offense sucked. I saw what he did here and I think he's as good as Bradley and Pettine. He has played for Richie Petitbone, is a former player (the other 2 aren't) dude is fucking intense and would probably jump on the field. Tomsula is a solid DL coach who did a great job and got him promoted to HC (he didn't do well there). I wouldn't have a problem with him as our DC. Vrabel would be my #1 choice and he's very much like Manusky.

[Bucket]

I would be encouraged about Manusky and I might be the only one. He has experience, he did great with Scot when he was on the 49ers.

He also had the best group of our defense. The Linebackers all improved and he got the best out of mediocre unit between Foster and Will Compton.

We really need an experienced defensive coordinator coming in. I think bringing in another guy doing his first or second round as a DC is a bit risky.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Bucket

I would be encouraged about Manusky and I might be the only one. He has experience, he did great with Scot when he was on the 49ers.

He also had the best group of our defense. The Linebackers all improved and he got the best out of mediocre unit between Foster and Will Compton.

We really need an experienced defensive coordinator coming in. I think bringing in another guy doing his first or second round as a DC is a bit risky.

Bucket I don't want to rain on your parade but he was outside linebackers coach only, Kirk Olivadotti is the inside 'backers coach.

2nd point:

Greg Manusky Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks | Pro-Football-Reference.com

His defensive stats are unimpressive. You guys might remember those San Fran defenses as great, but the rankings don't lie. Yeah I know rankings don't tell the whole story, but other than two years where his San Fran defenses were top 10 in points everything else is average to mediocre. And he's never been top 10 in yards. Other than 1 year he's been average to mediocre in takeaways.

We have an opportunity to bring in coaches who not only have the stats to back it up, they also can elevate the players through their teaching and keeping the scheme simple enough that players don't have to think. Why settle for less?

I don't need to hear about energy and passion, we rode that train with Joe Barry. I'm beginning to suspect that was the whole reason he was hired, he was young, and full of energy. He certainly didn't have the resume for the job.