Kirk Cousins 365 thread

[Schneed10]

I don't think it means much, it's a recycled photo from earlier in the year. But I do put stock in Bruce Allen rating it a 10 out of 10 when asked what the likelihood of Cousins being back.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't think it means much, it's a recycled photo from earlier in the year. But I do put stock in Bruce Allen rating it a 10 out of 10 when asked what the likelihood of Cousins being back.

Well to be honest, he wasn't asked about the likelihood of KC being back, if was asked "on a scale to 1 to 10 what is te likelihood of Cousins being back? 10? Is that a 10? -Yes it's a 10".

So I'm not sure how much it means either. More than a FB post for sure.

I'm just trying to get a sense of how would they look, with all the signals sent to the world, if they don't bring him back.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Well to be honest, he wasn't asked about the likelihood of KC being back, if was asked "on a scale to 1 to 10 what is te likelihood of Cousins being back? 10? Is that a 10? -Yes it's a 10".

So I'm not sure how much it means either. More than a FB post for sure.

I'm just trying to get a sense of how would they look, with all the signals sent to the world, if they don't bring him back.

Kirk Cousins is going to be the QB in 2017. Period. Full Stop.

The biggest concern right now is being in a bad position to sign him long term after 2017 because of hard feelings, missing the opportunity to sign him last year, market value, changing cap, yada yada.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Kirk Cousins is going to be the QB in 2017. Period. Full Stop.

The biggest concern right now is being in a bad position to sign him long term after 2017 because of hard feelings, missing the opportunity to sign him last year, market value, changing cap, yada yada.

Hope you are right.

Question though: if they fail to sign him long term this offseason, would you consider tag and trade a good option?

I would be mad because not signing him long term would be a huge mistake, but if we could get 2 first rounders, it would a lesser evil than losing him with nothing in exchange at the end of next season, wouldn't it?

[Schneed10]

Alexa, fast forward to March 9 because I can't take this shit anymore.

[mooby]

Tell me the last franchise quarterback that didn't get the exclusive tag, and I'll counterpoint and tell you that's an oxymoron because it never happened.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mooby

Tell me the last franchise quarterback that didn't get the exclusive tag, and I'll counterpoint and tell you that's an oxymoron because it never happened.

Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?

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[metalskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?

The tag that Cousins got last year was a non-exclusive?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by metalskins

The tag that Cousins got last year was a non-exclusive?

yup - Washington Redskins franchise tag Kirk Cousins - NFL.com

The Washington Redskins used their non-exclusive franchise tag on Cousins, the team announced Tuesday. The designation acts as a one-year, $19.95 million contract for the quarterback, who picked a wonderful time to enjoy a breakout season in 2015

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

yup - Washington Redskins franchise tag Kirk Cousins - NFL.com

That's interesting. Don't know how I missed that. I assumed it was the exclusive. Maybe because I never heard of any teams wanting to negotiate with Cousins last offseason.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do you mean a QB who got the non-exclusive franchise tag? Like Matt Cassell in 2009 or Kirk Cousins last year?

No I meant more along the lines of a true franchise qb, like a Manning or a Brees. I like Kirk, don't get me wrong, but there were still doubts last offseason about him being a true franchise qb, and Matt Cassel was decent in '09 (iirc correctly that was the year he was coming off the 11-5 season for the Pats) but he wasn't "elite qb decent."

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by mooby

No I meant more along the lines of a true franchise qb, like a Manning or a Brees. I like Kirk, don't get me wrong, but there were still doubts last offseason about him being a true franchise qb, and Matt Cassel was decent in '09 (iirc correctly that was the year he was coming off the 11-5 season for the Pats) but he wasn't "elite qb decent."

Not sure I'm following your point. True franchise quarterbacks don't get the franchise tag? So, Kirk Cousins isn't franchise quarterback material?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Not sure I'm following your point. True franchise quarterbacks don't get the franchise tag? So, Kirk Cousins isn't franchise quarterback material?

No, my point is when a truly elite qb like a Manning or Brees has their contract about to expire, they get exclusive franchise tags. I assume Kirk will get a non-exclusive tag just because that's what they did last year. If they don't even want to entertain offers he will get the exclusive tag though.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mooby

No I meant more along the lines of a true franchise qb, like a Manning or a Brees. I like Kirk, don't get me wrong, but there were still doubts last offseason about him being a true franchise qb, and Matt Cassel was decent in '09 (iirc correctly that was the year he was coming off the 11-5 season for the Pats) but he wasn't "elite qb decent."

I figured that's what you meant. Like if there is no doubt, you take no chances of losing him.