Redskins promote Greg Manusky to defensive coordinator

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by FlyerSkin

Not extending Gruden might have cost us one of the big names. If this was the plan all along then what wait 2 weeks? Nobody wants a one year gig. Gruden might be out the door after next season if we stink.

I think Gruden has to win at least 8 games or he's gone. He will likely have another QB to try and do that with too. it's going to be hard, but he can do it if we have even an above average defense next year to take pressure off the QB.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I think Gruden has to win at least 8 games or he's gone. He will likely have another QB to try and do that with too. it's going to be hard, but he can do it if we have even an above average defense next year to take pressure off the QB.

You are the ultimate troll.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by mooby

You are the ultimate troll.

All due respect, but piss off. How am I a troll by pointing out the obvious? We have never had a HC longer than 4 seasons since Snyder has owned the team. Next year is year 4. Are you aware of that? I'm just saying Gruden is going to have to have another winning season IMO to have a chance at either returning for year 5, or getting his extension. But you might be a smart person, would you extend your HC next season if he goes 6-10 or worse?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

All due respect, but piss off. How am I a troll by pointing out the obvious? We have never had a HC longer than 4 seasons since Snyder has owned the team. Next year is year 4. Are you aware of that? I'm just saying Gruden is going to have to have another winning season IMO to have a chance at either returning for year 5, or getting his extension. But you might be a smart person, would you extend your HC next season if he goes 6-10 or worse?

When you say shit like "we will likely have another qb" despite there being 0 credibility towards that "fact" besides your own delusions, I make my own conclusions. The worst part of your statement is the fact I agree, if Manusky somehow keeps our defense average or god forbid even worse next season despite the incoming talent infusion (literally Scott knows he has 1 fucking job this offseason, it's priorities 1, 2, and 3) then there's a good chance our entire staff gets canned instead of just his weak ass d-coordinator.

Besides, extensions don't mean shit. They are just meant to reassure the person who receives them. Forgotten McNabb? He was benched like two weeks after getting his extension in 2010. Go ask Ryan Grigson if that extension that he got last year is working out for him now.

[SFREDSKIN]

Greg Manusky: The man behind the Colts defense

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Greg Manusky: The man behind the Colts defense

You can put puff pieces up all you want. After 3 years of bad DC's, and terrible defenses, Gruden (and SM) should have gone above and beyond to pull in a top tier DC. Whether Manusky makes it or not isn't the question. The question is not will he succeed, the question is based on all empirical evidence was he the best candidate for the job. And the answer to that is a resounding no.

His group didn't excel beyond their abilities (in fact they barely played up to theirs). And his past stints as DC didn't produce elite or even top 10 outputs. Others that were looked at could answer yes to both those questions.

As a Skins fan, yes I hope he succeeds, and yes I hope we infuse top talent, which makes the DC's job easier. But no, as an NFL observer, he was not the right man for the job, not even close.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

You can put puff pieces up all you want. After 3 years of bad DC's, and terrible defenses, Gruden (and SM) should have gone above and beyond to pull in a top tier DC. Whether Manusky makes it or not isn't the question. The question is not will he succeed, the question is based on all empirical evidence was he the best candidate for the job. And the answer to that is a resounding no.

His group didn't excel beyond their abilities (in fact they barely played up to theirs). And his past stints as DC didn't produce elite or even top 10 outputs. Others that were looked at could answer yes to both those questions.

As a Skins fan, yes I hope he succeeds, and yes I hope we infuse top talent, which makes the DC's job easier. But no, as an NFL observer, he was not the right man for the job, not even close.

This is pretty much my feelings as well. I don't believe Manusky was the best candidate for the job. I believe the top two candidates didn't want to come here. Otherwise, there would have been no reason to interview other guys before making up your mind on Pettine or Bradley. Their resume of past success is all the 'skins brass needed to make a judgment on if either two were right for the DC position. Instead, they promoted from within, a guy - while beloved by the team - does not have a resume that suggests he can improve the defense.

I will fully support Greg Manusky and hope he can turn the defense around, but I don't like the hire.

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by mooby

When you say shit like "we will likely have another qb" despite there being 0 credibility towards that "fact" besides your own delusions, I make my own conclusions. The worst part of your statement is the fact I agree, if Manusky somehow keeps our defense average or god forbid even worse next season despite the incoming talent infusion (literally Scott knows he has 1 fucking job this offseason, it's priorities 1, 2, and 3) then there's a good chance our entire staff gets canned instead of just his weak ass d-coordinator.

Besides, extensions don't mean shit. They are just meant to reassure the person who receives them. Forgotten McNabb? He was benched like two weeks after getting his extension in 2010. Go ask Ryan Grigson if that extension that he got last year is working out for him now.

You do not know what will go down with
Cousins either. What if San Francisco offers him over 25 million? There are a ton of desperate teams out there. Are we going to break the bank for a guy who doesn't handle pressure too well? I want Kirk resigned, but not at an inflated price. Also, you have no idea what Kirk is thinking. He might want a change of scenery for all we know.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by FlyerSkin

You do not know what will go down with
Cousins either. What if San Francisco offers him over 25 million? There are a ton of desperate teams out there. Are we going to break the bank for a guy who doesn't handle pressure too well? I want Kirk resigned, but not at an inflated price. Also, you have no idea what Kirk is thinking. He might want a change of scenery for all we know.

In order for SF to offer him 25 mil, he'd have to make it to free agency first. That will never happen. Why would we let the best free agent qb even get to the market? If they think the deal isn't going to happen he will get tagged at 24.5 mil. You are basically saying we would let our stud qb walk, and get nothing in return for him, then tag him for another year until we can figure out a long term solution.