Kirk Cousins 365 thread

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Solid Snake don't read this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a093d82fae6f

I read it earlier today and still feel happy that GM's and Coaches around the NFL are able to agree on what we can't seem to : That Kirk Cousins is a Franchise QB worth a big contract. Lynch put it out there in layman's terms about the perceived "high cost" - he said what Cousins is after is the going rate for starting QB's. And it's true.

At the end of the day i still stick to my belief that Kirk Cousins is not a Redskin when the 2017 season begins. IMO, they have done enough to make that known even without coming out and saying it. Do i want him here? Hell yes, I think he's the best thing we've had here in 20 years. But do they want him here? Probably not. I know Gruden and all the others are doing their part in "coach speak" about Cousins, but like someone else said on here, saying they wanted him back was probably just a way to drive up his value so that someone trades away big to get him.

I am happy to eat crow if at the end of the day Cousins is resigned to a multi-year contract here. And i say i deserve it if that happens.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I read it earlier today and still feel happy that GM's and Coaches around the NFL are able to agree on what we can't seem to : That Kirk Cousins is a Franchise QB worth a big contract. Lynch put it out there in layman's terms about the perceived "high cost" - he said what Cousins is after is the going rate for starting QB's. And it's true.



At the end of the day i still stick to my belief that Kirk Cousins is not a Redskin when the 2017 season begins. IMO, they have done enough to make that known even without coming out and saying it. Do i want him here? Hell yes, I think he's the best thing we've had here in 20 years. But do they want him here? Probably not. I know Gruden and all the others are doing their part in "coach speak" about Cousins, but like someone else said on here, saying they wanted him back was probably just a way to drive up his value so that someone trades away big to get him.



I am happy to eat crow if at the end of the day Cousins is resigned to a multi-year contract here. And i say i deserve it if that happens.

I'm with you snake. From the tone of Cooley and Kevin it seems SM and or Dan is not in love with Kirk, and is willing to part with him for the right price.

I'm 43 and a lifelong Skins fan, but if they trade Kirk that will be it for me. I refuse to continue to support an organization that gets it wrong every time. That let's there ego or their bottom line effect there decisions. I mean really, did Kirk find Scott's liquor stash and poor it down the sink?? Why can't they for once be happy with our own guy and not always be looking for the shiny new car i.e. (Brad Johnson, Trent Green, Antonio Pierce, Ryan Clark, on and on again..) When is enough finally going to be enough..


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[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Brody81

I'm with you snake. From the tone of Cooley and Kevin it seems SM and or Dan is not in love with Kirk, and is willing to part with him for the right price.

I'm 43 and a lifelong Skins fan, but if they trade Kirk that will be it for me. I refuse to continue to support an organization that gets it wrong every time. That let's there ego or their bottom line effect there decisions. I mean really, did Kirk find Scott's liquor stash and poor it down the sink?? Why can't they for once be happy with our own guy and not always be looking for the shiny new car i.e. (Brad Johnson, Trent Green, Antonio Pierce, Ryan Clark, on and on again..) When is enough finally going to be enough..


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I'm with you 100%. We've all endured countless horrors since Snyder has owned the team. Letting his franchise QB walk will be the nail in the coffin for me. As much as I love this team, you are right we can't continue to support stupidity and ineptitude. I'm actually looking forward to continue to root for Cousins wherever he lands.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I'm with you 100%. We've all endured countless horrors since Snyder has owned the team. Letting his franchise QB walk will be the nail in the coffin for me. As much as I love this team, you are right we can't continue to support stupidity and ineptitude. I'm actually looking forward to continue to root for Cousins wherever he lands.

What if they let him walk and he ends up playing like Joe Flacco? (definitely not worth the money) Would you feel different then? Denver fans are loving the fact their GM didn't throw Houston kind of money at Brock Osweiler. Crazy thing is, they weren't too far off on the money that was offered. Needless to say, they dodged a bullet. Not saying this is the same case, but it's something needs to be thought about.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

At the end of the day i still stick to my belief that Kirk Cousins is not a Redskin when the 2017 season begins.

Are you aware that both Jay Gruden and Bruce Allen recently said they are certain that Kirk will be a Redskin next season? BA was asked to give a number on a scale of one to ten of the probability that Kirk would be back next season and he said "ten".

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Are you aware that both Jay Gruden and Bruce Allen recently said they are certain that Kirk will be a Redskin next season? BA was asked to give a number on a scale of one to ten of the probability that Kirk would be back next season and he said "ten".

When the hell does that mean a god damn thing? Words are cheap. When we see Kirk smiling after signing a nice big contract then I will be happy. Until then anything said can be bunk that is said just to placate the fans and keep the competition guessing. You think they are going to let it slip out this early in the game if they are going to ditch him? Wait til the real negotiations start, then we will see if this is a bunch of hot air or not. Neither side is going to show its hand now. For all we know Kirk is going to intentionally highball his demands as to get the Skins to balk for all we know. Just let the chips fall where they will.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Are you aware that both Jay Gruden and Bruce Allen recently said they are certain that Kirk will be a Redskin next season? BA was asked to give a number on a scale of one to ten of the probability that Kirk would be back next season and he said "ten".

One of our posters here said that may be really nothing more than "coach speak", intended to drive up Cousin's asking price in terms of the trade, enabling Washington to get more for him.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

One of our posters here said that may be really nothing more than "coach speak", intended to drive up Cousin's asking price in terms of the trade, enabling Washington to get more for him.

Or maybe it's the truth and we should trust the football guys to make good football decisions. I can't see SM or JG letting him go to start over basically searching for another Cousins.

[SirLK26]

When you step back and just think about this situation, forgetting all the reports and rumors and speculations for a moment, can you see any way we dont keep Cousins? Are these guys that are supposed be professional football decision makers really so stupid they would let a guy who just had two seasons like he had leave? No way, he will be back on a long term deal unless someone offers us an insane deal in exchange

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

Or maybe it's the truth and we should trust the football guys to make good football decisions. I can't see SM or JG letting him go to start over basically searching for another Cousins.

Gruden would be cutting his own throat if he were to let KC go without a full out war. He basically hitched his cart to KC during the first preseason.

SM, he's not really tied to KC 100%, but I am pretty sure they both put their reputations out there to get RG3 gone.

And at this point everything said has been that BA and DS are out of the player picking carousel (as much as the money man and owner ever are).


The ONLY point I've heard made for them letting him walk is that (other than DS) none of our FO has ever spent the kind of money that will be needed before. There is a first time for everything.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Gruden would be cutting his own throat if he were to let KC go without a full out war. He basically hitched his cart to KC during the first preseason.

SM, he's not really tied to KC 100%, but I am pretty sure they both put their reputations out there to get RG3 gone.

And at this point everything said has been that BA and DS are out of the player picking carousel (as much as the money man and owner ever are).


The ONLY point I've heard made for them letting him walk is that (other than DS) none of our FO has ever spent the kind of money that will be needed before. There is a first time for everything.

Yes, Cooley said as much - we do not have anyone on staff currently that has ever been part of a redskins team that has had to deal with a QB number this high. But like John Lynch said - right or wrong that's the going rate for a franchise QB

[skinsfan69]

I feel a little better about things after hearing BA and JG come out and say positive things about KC. Just still confused why they're not negotiating. The season has been over with for weeks and so far nothing. That makes no sense to me.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

One of our posters here said that may be really nothing more than "coach speak", intended to drive up Cousin's asking price in terms of the trade, enabling Washington to get more for him.

Well, you have apparently gone full ShakySnake on this topic.

Let's compare our sources: My sources, the President of the Redskins and the Redskins Head Coach, say that it is a virtual certainty that Kirk will be with the team in 2017. Your source, one of our posters, says that what they said is just "coach speak". So you weigh the credibility of the sources and come to the conclusion that the Redskins might not re-sign Kirk, thus causing the sky to fall and forcing you to renounce your Redskins fandom forever.

Nice job of seeing right through those lying bastards at Redskins Park.

[rocnrik]

The Skins will Sign Cousins..However when they do make him one of the highest paid QB's in the League and he struggles some and he has those moments with game on the line and does not get it done there will be pages and pages on these forums about what were the Skins thinking when they gave it all to this guy..Look I am pro Kirk however it is refreshing to see the Front office not jumping the gun and at least play out all options..This team is not a QB away from a Super Bowl team..period. in fact the Offense most likely won't have the talent next year than i did this year. Denver with a aging Peyton won super bowl last year in spite of Peyton because they had a stud team around them..Dallas was very good this year with a rookie QB but look at their OL and Running game and D. We need to sign Cousins BUT how much is to much and what is wrong with seeing what some desperate team may give up to get him..Are you guys saying you would turn down 3 number one picks for Cousins?? What would you Give him up for? i believe there is a team out there that might would do that .I would never trade him for one pick but 3 number ones...Yes I would .

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Well, you have apparently gone full ShakySnake on this topic.

Let's compare our sources: My sources, the President of the Redskins and the Redskins Head Coach, say that it is a virtual certainty that Kirk will be with the team in 2017. Your source, one of our posters, says that what they said is just "coach speak". So you weigh the credibility of the sources and come to the conclusion that the Redskins might not re-sign Kirk, thus causing the sky to fall and forcing you to renounce your Redskins fandom forever.

Nice job of seeing right through those lying bastards at Redskins Park.

Hey I get what you are saying, I know how it must sound. But how many times have we seen Bill Belichick lie about something team related? How many times has he said "We have no plans to sign - "XXX" Player", and then they go and do it? I'm just saying every coach in the NFL lies when it is to protect the best interest of the team.

So if I am right about Kirk, and I might be, is anybody going to apologize to me? Hey I hope he stays here forever, but this is the redskins we are talking about. I'll be glad when the Cousins situation is over with one way or the other so we can all get back to posting about "regular" stuff, the games, etc....