What would it take?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Several points.
1) seriously - why doesn't Trump fix the state of the rest of the world?

2) I agree our legal immigration ought to be simplified and expanded - in other words the Statue of Liberty quote ought to be exemplified by our immigration policies, not by immigrants breaking our laws to get into the country.

3) Even with a liberalized immigration policy you can't offer enough legal immigration to solve the problem by itself.

4) Walls work but it's not the end all be all solution. The fact of the matter is that even in this day and age, walls/fences/security structures work.

We don't build prisons without walls and fences because the bad guys will just find another way.

Most people put a fence around the property line, not because it's an end all solution, but because you define the line.

You say people will find other ways, and while that's true, you still block off vast amounts of avenues simply with a wall that has basic security enhancements - motion sensor, ground radar, and cameras.

bottomline, no one solution is going to solve the problems at our southern border, but an effective wall, better use of technology, and an appropriate immigration policy would go a long way to reducing the issue.

Sorry for ignoring this. As for your points, I agree we should fix the US before we go about trying to save the rest of the world. I also agree there is no perfect solution to immigration, but I think we already do a good job of vetting the ones we allow in. Perhaps there should be a separate program for families that want to work hard, offer good skills, and make a fair living while paying taxes? Idk how you go about implementing that but I feel that the honest, hardworking illegal immigrants would much prefer to be legal rather than worry about being deported every time they go out in public. Obviously the criminal element doesn't care, and those are the ones that should be locked up before being deported.

As for your wall, I want to look at it from another perspective. I am at work atm and don't have access to a lot of sites, so I can't verify right now, but I would be happy to track down the source if necessary (I will admit I got it from FB). The article mentioned that after the legal battles that will result from eminent domain claims it might be another 3 1/2 years before construction would start, and construction is estimated at another 3 1/2 years after it does start. So you might be looking at a partially built wall by the time the next presidential election rolls around, and if Trump loses you are almost guaranteed the next President would either alter or eliminate the idea entirely depending on the financial state of the US. Do you really want to commit to it knowing there's a 50/50 chance it doesn't get finished? That would be a lot of taxpayer money waste if it did happen.