Kirk Cousins 365 thread

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

ESPN is reporting that Kirk has already made up his mind and that he wants to play in SF... O well fuck it, I knew this would happen when he went to that Atlanta game, that was too fishy. Hopefully we get romo now and the number 2 pick, if not we are a 4-12 team again.

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Well his wife and her family are from Atlanta, so he was going to be there regardless.

For the right price, Kirk will sign in DC. But if he's going to be traded the only place he'll sign a long-term deal is SF. Chicago being a very distant second. So SF is really the only viable trade partner

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well his wife and her family are from Atlanta, so he was going to be there regardless.

For the right price, Kirk will sign in DC. But if he's going to be traded the only place he'll sign a long-term deal is SF. Chicago being a very distant second. So SF is really the only viable trade partner

They love him in Chicago. Must be the MSU connection. Either way, I'm over it all. If he stays great, if not o well

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

They love him in Chicago. Must be the MSU connection. Either way, I'm over it all. If he stays great, if not o well

Cousins was born in Barrington, Illinois.
I doubt there is a Chicago/MSU connection.
Most people in the Chicago area think Michigan is above Minnesota.

[rocnrik]

Cooley believes Cousins is not worth 2 first round picks..Hmmmm...very interesting.could it be that the folks who are about to jump off ledge because we may not sign Kirk to long term deal are wrong about Cousins ability ..Not worth 2 first round picks(or at least no team would give up that for him says a lot about his value..) MAYBE He is not all that and the Skins front office don't want to be saddled to a overpaid underachiever for next 5 years.. His stats could be a result of the system ..he had best WR group in league..top TE..good if not great pass protection..very good play calling( Mcvay ended up head coach..that tells you something) remember we missed the playoffs this year . My gut Tells me Cousins is a good QB in the right system but I don't believe he will ever be the guy that can carry the team to the big dance..( Brady,Rogers,Newton,Ryan,Brees,Carr,Flaco,Manning, Wilson,Big Ben..Im not sure Cousins is near that group.) lets just see what happens ..the only thing that would really bother me is Getting Romo or Cutler..If Colt has to be the QB next year and we can win 8-9 games then so be it.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Cooley believes Cousins is not worth 2 first round picks..Hmmmm...very interesting.could it be that the folks who are about to jump off ledge because we may not sign Kirk to long term deal are wrong about Cousins ability ..Not worth 2 first round picks(or at least no team would give up that for him says a lot about his value..) MAYBE He is not all that and the Skins front office don't want to be saddled to a overpaid underachiever for next 5 years.. His stats could be a result of the system ..he had best WR group in league..top TE..good if not great pass protection..very good play calling( Mcvay ended up head coach..that tells you something) remember we missed the playoffs this year . My gut Tells me Cousins is a good QB in the right system but I don't believe he will ever be the guy that can carry the team to the big dance..( Brady,Rogers,Newton,Ryan,Brees,Carr,Flaco,Manning, Wilson,Big Ben..Im not sure Cousins is near that group.) lets just see what happens ..the only thing that would really bother me is Getting Romo or Cutler..If Colt has to be the QB next year and we can win 8-9 games then so be it.

Those of us who believe in Kirk's ability are not wrong about him. He led the entire NFL in QBR over the period of the last 12 regular season games (games 5 through 16) of 2017. He is a winner and he is still developing his skills (meaning he will continue to get better). He has avoided injuries, so you can expect him to be available from week to week (which is a very big deal in the NFL) and he may have as many as 10 years left in his NFL career. So, yes, he is "all that".

Cooley may think he's not worth two number one picks, but the league says he is worth it if he receives the non-exclusive tag and another team signs him.

If Kirk should go to SF, he and Kyle Shanahan will light up the league like you won't believe. That is, as soon as SF get him some weapons to work with. Believe me, we're going to suffer without him if he goes because no journeyman QB is going to be able to duplicate what he does for this team.

Just to make my position on this matter as clear as possible, if this front office doesn't re-sign Cousins they can all eat shit, die, and go to Hell. And they should take "company man" Cooley with them.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Cooley believes Cousins is not worth 2 first round picks..Hmmmm...very interesting.could it be that the folks who are about to jump off ledge because we may not sign Kirk to long term deal are wrong about Cousins ability ..Not worth 2 first round picks(or at least no team would give up that for him says a lot about his value..) MAYBE He is not all that and the Skins front office don't want to be saddled to a overpaid underachiever for next 5 years.. His stats could be a result of the system ..he had best WR group in league..top TE..good if not great pass protection..very good play calling( Mcvay ended up head coach..that tells you something) remember we missed the playoffs this year . My gut Tells me Cousins is a good QB in the right system but I don't believe he will ever be the guy that can carry the team to the big dance..( Brady,Rogers,Newton,Ryan,Brees,Carr,Flaco,Manning, Wilson,Big Ben..Im not sure Cousins is near that group.) lets just see what happens ..the only thing that would really bother me is Getting Romo or Cutler..If Colt has to be the QB next year and we can win 8-9 games then so be it.

1st in the league in total air yard, 3rd in the league in yards/attemp... This is not a system QB, this is at minimum a very good QB. Alex Smith is a system QB, the team is efficient because of the system, and he manages the game.

KC is doing more than that.

We have the best WR group in the league? What part of it belongs to Cousins? Desean is fast but made of glass and aging, I love Garçon but he's no Antonio Brown or Anthony Hopkins (that young man is making wonders with shitty QBs), Crowder is a really promising WR... But IMO, apart from Jordan Reed when healthy, we have good players, no great amazing receivers.

Barring any huge improvement both on defense and in the running game, we are NOT winning 8-9 games with Colt McCoy at QB.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

1st in the league in total air yard, 3rd in the league in yards/attemp... This is not a system QB, this is at minimum a very good QB. Alex Smith is a system QB, the team is efficient because of the system, and he manages the game.

KC is doing more than that.

We have the best WR group in the league? What part of it belongs to Cousins? Desean is fast but made of glass and aging, I love Garçon but he's no Antonio Brown or Anthony Hopkins (that young man is making wonders with shitty QBs), Crowder is a really promising WR... But IMO, apart from Jordan Reed when healthy, we have good players, no great amazing receivers.

Barring any huge improvement both on defense and in the running game, we are NOT winning 8-9 games with Colt McCoy at QB.

Agreed, we would be lucky to win five with Colt. Plus who is he throwing the ball too? Pierre and DJax wouldnt want to come back to catch balls from Colt. Plus the dude has a noodle arm and underthrows guys on 35 yard "bombs"

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Agreed, we would be lucky to win five with Colt. Plus who is he throwing the ball too? Pierre and DJax wouldnt want to come back to catch balls from Colt. Plus the dude has a noodle arm and underthrows guys on 35 yard "bombs"

True. That noodle arm is what keeps him from being a viable option as a starter.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Agreed, we would be lucky to win five with Colt. Plus who is he throwing the ball too? Pierre and DJax wouldnt want to come back to catch balls from Colt. Plus the dude has a noodle arm and underthrows guys on 35 yard "bombs"

Colt McCoy is a backup at best! If we let kirk go and start CM, I really wont care about wins next yr

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

They love him in Chicago. Must be the MSU connection. Either way, I'm over it all. If he stays great, if not o well

What MSU connection? Chicago football fans are either Northwestern, Illinois, or Wisconsin fans.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by FlyerSkin

What MSU connection? Chicago football fans are either Northwestern, Illinois, or Wisconsin fans.

They love him in Chicago because he is better then anything they have at QB.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mredskins

They love him in Chicago because he is better then anything they have at QB.

Lolol yeah that's y we love Him too!! Who else we gonna throw out there? They seriously can't believe Colt is the guy right??

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by FlyerSkin

What MSU connection? Chicago football fans are either Northwestern, Illinois, or Wisconsin fans.

When I went to the game I saw at least 10 people wearing MSU green. Now they could have been friends and family of him or something but still

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well his wife and her family are from Atlanta, so he was going to be there regardless.

For the right price, Kirk will sign in DC. But if he's going to be traded the only place he'll sign a long-term deal is SF. Chicago being a very distant second. So SF is really the only viable trade partner

I didn't realize how much power Cousins had in all of this, but it makes sense now. He really is going to make the Redskins pay for doubting him.