Kirk Cousins 365 thread

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

This fucked up (known as "normal" in Redskins Park) Kirk Cousins business seems to have everybody on edge.

Personally, I'm trying to keep my cool but I'm telling you that the familiar stink of Danny is all over this shit. Snyder probably has his eye on some college QB that Smithers will draft with our #17 pick.

I don't get what's f*cked up about it. Do you really expect a player in his prime and an NFL team would get a deal done before a deadline?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't get what's f*cked up about it. Do you really expect a player in his prime and an NFL team would get a deal done before a deadline?

It's fucked up because of the indecision of the front office at the end of the 2016 season. They needed to make a yes or no decision on keeping Kirk at that time in order to ever get a reasonable long-term deal with him, if that is what they decided they wanted. When they tagged him, it was crystal clear, even to a non-professional like me, what that decision meant. It meant they would not be getting a reasonable deal in the future due to the mechanics of the franchise tag. They knew that if Kirk had a successful season that they were going to have to pay him Top 5 money, at least Top 5 for now until the real Top 5 guys sign new contracts. It's called QB salary inflation.

On top of that, they deceived Kirk by telling him that if he had a good season in 2017 that he would get paid. He not only had a good season but he had a very good season. Apparently, he needed to play like Tom Brady to satisfy somebody at Redskins Park and get that contract they promised him.

Now, they are trying to low ball him when they should have patted him on the back right after the season ended and signed him to a lucrative contract, announcing to the world that "We're headed for bigger and better things and Kirk is our leader".

They fucked it up.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

It's fucked up because of the indecision of the front office at the end of the 2016 season. They needed to make a yes or no decision on keeping Kirk at that time in order to ever get a reasonable long-term deal with him, if that is what they decided they wanted. When they tagged him, it was crystal clear, even to a non-professional like me, what that decision meant. It meant they would not be getting a reasonable deal in the future due to the mechanics of the franchise tag. They knew that if Kirk had a successful season that they were going to have to pay him Top 5 money, at least Top 5 for now until the real Top 5 guys sign new contracts. It's called QB salary inflation.

On top of that, they deceived Kirk by telling him that if he had a good season in 2017 that he would get paid. He not only had a good season but he had a very good season. Apparently, he needed to play like Tom Brady to satisfy somebody at Redskins Park and get that contract they promised him.

Now, they are trying to low ball him when they should have patted him on the back right after the season ended and signed him to a lucrative contract, announcing to the world that "We're headed for bigger and better things and Kirk is our leader".

They fucked it up.

Meh, I am ok that they didn't go all in last year. This year, I am surprised they haven't but still KC needs to be a cooperative partner. If they offered 6 years 120 million with 60M guaranteed, even that's "only 20M/per year" it's still a top 5-10 payout. I can understand KC wanting to play his leverage out to the hilt to get every possible dollar, but that doesn't mean the FO effed it up. KC is not a sure fire elite qb. He is a surefire top 10 qb. I think that 20M per year (though I expected them to offer 23M) is a rational offer.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

It's fucked up because of the indecision of the front office at the end of the 2016 season. They needed to make a yes or no decision on keeping Kirk at that time in order to ever get a reasonable long-term deal with him, if that is what they decided they wanted. When they tagged him, it was crystal clear, even to a non-professional like me, what that decision meant. It meant they would not be getting a reasonable deal in the future due to the mechanics of the franchise tag. They knew that if Kirk had a successful season that they were going to have to pay him Top 5 money, at least Top 5 for now until the real Top 5 guys sign new contracts. It's called QB salary inflation.

On top of that, they deceived Kirk by telling him that if he had a good season in 2017 that he would get paid. He not only had a good season but he had a very good season. Apparently, he needed to play like Tom Brady to satisfy somebody at Redskins Park and get that contract they promised him.

Now, they are trying to low ball him when they should have patted him on the back right after the season ended and signed him to a lucrative contract, announcing to the world that "We're headed for bigger and better things and Kirk is our leader".

They fucked it up.

But Kirk Cousins didn't have the same success he had in the previous season, since the team didn't make the playoffs, and his last showing was pretty bad. Especially when considering that he wants to be the highest paid QB.

You do realize that Von Miller, who was the Super Bowl MVP and arguably the best player at his position that year, was tagged and the negotiations went all the way to the July deadline?

Honestly, we are in a situation where neither side needs to agree to anything. Cousins' side is going to hold off until they get the deal they want and so will the Redskins. This is the way business is done in the NFL.

Here, read this piece by Andrew Brandt, which explains way better the whole Cousins' situation from a NFL business perspective: You Would Treat Kirk Cousins the Same Way | The MMQB with Peter King