Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag

[calia]

This is bullshit. The guy has been a great teammate (sat behind RGIII without compliant probably knowing he was a lot better), improved in the one area that was a deficit - turnovers, broke franchise records in consecutive years (and with little help in the run game), and has done everything asked of him. We haven't had a QB like him in ages. If they squander this opportunity, they're idiots. With a middling D last year, that offense could have done some damage in the playoffs. And with the cap going up as it does, 3 years from now what it would take to keep him won't look bad.

And for those thinking we can plug in Colt or just draft a QB, I ask you how well that mentality has worked in the last quarter century.

I wish this franchise would stop getting in its own way. It's infuriating.


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[NC_Skins]

Say goodbye to KC after this year. Our front office are full of fucking morons. THis team is so fucking stupid. They could have had the guy for 19/20 mil per year and waited so now it's 25mil/yr. Now these fucking idiots are going to wait even longer for when the price tag will be up to 30mil/yr. Fucking morons.

[calia]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Say goodbye to KC after this year. Our front office are full of fucking morons. THis team is so fucking stupid. They could have had the guy for 19/20 mil per year and waited so now it's 25mil/yr. Now these fucking idiots are going to wait even longer for when the price tag will be up to 30mil/yr. Fucking morons.

This about sums it up. I really hope they get it together and get something done. If I were KC, I'd feel pretty slighted.


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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Say goodbye to KC after this year. Our front office are full of fucking morons. THis team is so fucking stupid. They could have had the guy for 19/20 mil per year and waited so now it's 25mil/yr. Now these fucking idiots are going to wait even longer for when the price tag will be up to 30mil/yr. Fucking morons.

I can't help but feel KC bears a lot of the blame. If- as your tweet by Schefter says - he is willing to talk after the season then he should have been willing to sign this off season but he is using the FT to the hilt and trusts our line is going to keep him from a season ending injury. If the Skins offered anywhere near market value there is no reason KC should not have signed.

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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I can't help but feel KC bears a lot of the blame. If- as your tweet by Schefter says - he is willing to talk after the season then he should have been willing to sign this off season but he is using the FT to the hilt and trusts our line is going to keep him from a season ending injury. If the Skins offered anywhere near market value there is no reason KC should not have signed.

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Kirk is throwing away the security of a long term deal by not compromising with the team, IMO.

I doubt the team is lowballing him, but any long term deal is WAY better than being on the franchise tag from year to year.

He's being all business, and so is the team. I just don't get why either he or his agent, don't see the value of a security of a long term deal.

But whatever, this is a "win now" league and the team has him for the upcoming season. And I guess that's what matters for now.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Kirk is throwing away the security of a long term deal by not compromising with the team, IMO.

I doubt the team is lowballing him, but any long term deal is WAY better than being on the franchise tag from year to year.

He's being all business, and so is the team. I just don't get why either he or his agent, don't see the value of a security of a long term deal.

But whatever, this is a "win now" league and the team has him for the upcoming season. And I guess that's what matters for now.

You are a smart guy but do you have any idea of how ridiculous it sounds when you post that Kirk is throwing away his financial security? The man has already been paid over $19M by the Skins and they are contractually obligated to pay him another $24M for the coming season. With $43M in hand, what financial security worry could Kirk possibly have?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

You are a smart guy but do you have any idea of how ridiculous it sounds when you post that Kirk is throwing away his financial security? The man has already been paid over $19M by the Skins and they are contractually obligated to pay him another $24M for the coming season. With $43M in hand, what financial security worry could Kirk possibly have?

It is my understanding that playing under the tag is not secured money compared to a long term deal. I don't know the details, I do know people like Andrew Brandt has repeatedly said that common sense in these situation is to take the long term guaranteed money as opposed to playing under the tag.

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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I can't help but feel KC bears a lot of the blame. If- as your tweet by Schefter says - he is willing to talk after the season then he should have been willing to sign this off season but he is using the FT to the hilt and trusts our line is going to keep him from a season ending injury. If the Skins offered anywhere near market value there is no reason KC should not have signed.

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KC is getting his value. The problem is the Skins don't think he's worth it, and KC sees it in their negotiating. He's not going to stick around unless you give him a top tier contract. Period. The skins have absolutely fucked this up and we all know it. Could have had him at 19mil/yr, now we're looking at 30mil/yr if it goes to 2018. Bruce Allen and Dan Snyder will continue to be the reason why this team fails.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

KC is getting his value. The problem is the Skins don't think he's worth it, and KC sees it in their negotiating. He's not going to stick around unless you give him a top tier contract. Period. The skins have absolutely fucked this up and we all know it. Could have had him at 19mil/yr, now we're looking at 30mil/yr if it goes to 2018. Bruce Allen and Dan Snyder will continue to be the reason why this team fails.

KC is throwing away the security of a long term deal. I'm fine with the team not going over the top and waiting one more year if Kirk's side is not willing to compromise.

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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

KC is throwing away the security of a long term deal. I'm fine with the team not going over the top and waiting one more year if Kirk's side is not willing to compromise.

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Even if he has a mediocre year, I still think he gets over 20mil/yr.

[skinsfan69]

The Redskins still have options after this season. They can use the transition tag and we can see what the market is for KC. The sky isn't falling.

Also the teams that might want him are shit. SF is garbage with no weapons. If things don't work out with Goff who the hell do they have? Tavon Austin? He is the most overrated, overpaid player in the league. The Jets? Total mess. Clev drafted Kizer.

His best options for his career are still here in Washington. KC is no dummy and he knows this. Plus.. as I said those teams might use the draft to get their franchise QB. Yes the Skins FO have totally messed this up beyond belief but they still hold the cards.

[calia]

This sounds like wishful thinking. I am sure there are several teams that would welcome Cousins in a heartbeat. How long does Carson have in AZ for example? Who knows if Bridgewater ever comes back in Minn? Better defenses than ours and at least a few weapons.

We haven't had stability in the QB position - a prerequisite for doing anything in the playoffs- since the early 1990s. What's it going to take?


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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by calia

This sounds like wishful thinking. I am sure there are several teams that would welcome Cousins in a heartbeat. How long does Carson have in AZ for example? Who knows if Bridgewater ever comes back in Minn? Better defenses than ours and at least a few weapons.

We haven't had stability in the QB position - a prerequisite for doing anything in the playoffs- since the early 1990s. What's it going to take?


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The Cards are one team that could be in the mix, no question. Vikings? They're probably staying with Bradford.

[calia]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The Cards are one team that could be in the mix, no question. Vikings? They're probably staying with Bradford.

He has been pretty brittle too. Maybe. I wonder about Houston or other teams that just signed rookie QBs, at least a few of which might not pan out. But I think it is safe to assume that many teams might be interested in a QB that can throw for 4500+ yards, 25 tds, and will show good leadership. And we should too.


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The Cards are one team that could be in the mix, no question. Vikings? They're probably staying with Bradford.

If Goff continues to play like a soft bitch...the Rams would provide the 49ers with the most competition for cousins.

If I was cousins and the skins low balled me 2 consecutive seasons, no way in hell I'd even consider them next year. And I would tell Snyder to eat shit on the way out.