Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag

[rocnrik]

I have a reason to pull for skins this year..to watch Cousins sh*t the bed..Mr big time "show me da money" You have no intention of signing a deal with Skins .you want out of here..why don't you just say it. Could the Skins have handled this better? 100% yes but if you go back and look the timing was all on Cousins side. There will be a lot of fans who don't give a crap if you leave..you have talent for sure but you are not as great as you think..my bet is we miss playoffs this year..we at best go 8-8 and truth is Cousins does not strike fear in NFL defense ..Top 10 QB? NO WAY you are at best slightly above mid pack . lets see how you do without Djax now He scared the Defense! is Cousins better than colt?? Heck yea But we can win 6 or 7 games with Colt ..Cousins is at best a system QB who needs great talent around him to win..He will never be able to carry a team the way Brady,Rogers,Brees,Big Ben,Ryan,Manning,Wilson,Newton can. We were not even competitive against the Panthers and several other teams at the end. Talk about a moment to step up and show the redskins what you are ..HOW ABOUT the Giants game with playoffs on the line and you choke..dont tell me How you like me now in some game you guys were getting blown out and had a ton of breaks to eke out a win.Lead your team to a few wins late in the year and make the playoffs!! You do that and you would have your LONG TERM deal. I am moving on as a fan and could care less what Cousins does.

[Schneed10]

It doesn't make sense to compare Cousins to recent deals signed by Carr, Luck, Newton, Wilson, whoever.

The leverage drives it. Either it's really about money, or he wants out.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

It doesn't make sense to compare Cousins to recent deals signed by Carr, Luck, Newton, Wilson, whoever.

The leverage drives it. Either it's really about money, or he wants out.

Well he would have made more guaranteed money than those guys, so he just wants out. How do you negotiate with someone who doesn't want to be on your team?

[sdskinsfan2001]

How do I even enjoy winning when the guy that plays qb doesn't even want to be on the team. I don't want him here next year. I'd rather lose with Colt or Nate than win with a guy that will use winning with our great offense to get paid more by someone else or force us to transition tag him and have some team that offer a loaded contact that really hamstrungs us.

[over the mountain]

5 yrs, approx 24-25 M per year, 53-71M guaranteed .... that is what I thought Cousins wanted.

Im struggling to understand how that is not a good deal for Cousins. I guess the argument is that he making guaranteed 24M this year plus 28M next year on a transition tag .... so that equals 52M guaranteed over 2 years with no long term commitment vs the offer of 53 guaranteed over 5 years of team control.

He will be 29 when this season starts, 30 next year. Plus he is one major injury away from being damaged goods.

So what did Cousins want?

26M per year?

Not play for the Skins and Gruden? The neophite head coach who put his neck on the chopping block to make Kirk the starter 2 years ago?

Too much for me to absorb and process.

[skinsfan69]

KC obviously wants out. My question is why?

[CRedskinsRule]

That was a reasonable offer. (I actually had that as my guess for Sunday signing amount earlier in this thread) Schneed, he could have had 73 million guaranteed for injury. If he suffers a major knee blowout, then he gets this 24million and then whatever else. I don't think the Skins made an unreasonable offer, or one that should get scorn tossed at Allen. Clearly KC stuck his foot in the ground and wants to wait for next season.

At this point, I just want the Skins to have an outstanding season and let the chips fall where they may.

[CRedskinsRule]

I am curious to know if the line in BA's letter about not receiving any counter offers is accurate. You can't negotiate against yourself, that is a basic tenet of negotiation, so IF KC and his agent didn't make counter offers than it really was in the team's best interest to wait.

[insane4theskinsi]

shit has really hit the fan now.allen basically called cousins out! this cant end very well redskins will continue to be the joke of the league aslong as laurel and hardy continue running the show.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by insane4theskinsi

shit has really hit the fan now.allen basically called cousins out! this cant end very well redskins will continue to be the joke of the league aslong as laurel and hardy continue running the show.

Of course he called him out. He knows he's not going to sign any LTD regardless unless they vastly overpay him.

[insane4theskinsi]

i am hoping the market crashes,snyder loses a billion,and has to sell the team,hopefully to warren buffett.my grandson hopefully sees the skins win a superbowl,but i will never see them win their 4th.

[sdskinsfan2001]

I dont mind Allen releasing that at all. If he didn't everyone would just assume the team was the problem. Why should the franchise have to take all the heat? Cousins thinks he is way better than he is. Just because the market is going up doesn't mean you have to fold like a lawn chair. He isn't even worth what he was offered based on talent, let alone even more. Let him go to San Francisco. Give us a 3rd rounder to get a years headstart. Paying him 24 million this year to screw us into giving away the farm next year or forcing us to let him go for nothing is no good. We're getting used.

[sdskinsfan2001]

And Cousins being better than what we've had recently is not a reason to pay him more than he's worth. Considering what we've had recently is a turd bowl mixed with a bowl of dicks.

[ethat001]

Dumb move by Bruce Allen. There was a low chance KC would ever sign here, but now it's zero. That letter feels like when Scott McC was kicked out --> we tend to kick franchise personalities out and then smear their names. Sure, Bruce offered $53, but would've taken much higher guaranteed $$ to keep him -- so the letter is just dumb.

I think we all know Bruce screwed it up last year when he could've had him for $20, but now we only have a 1-2 year QB rental. Regardless, a $25 mil/year for an above average QB would've crippled us, so I'm not completely upset. But we need to start looking long-term replacements.

Had hope we'd be good / playoff team for the next 5-10 years, but now I think our maximum is a Houston.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I dont mind Allen releasing that at all. If he didn't everyone would just assume the team was the problem. Why should the franchise have to take all the heat? Cousins thinks he is way better than he is. Just because the market is going up doesn't mean you have to fold like a lawn chair. He isn't even worth what he was offered based on talent, let alone even more. Let him go to San Francisco. Give us a 3rd rounder to get a years headstart. Paying him 24 million this year to screw us into giving away the farm next year or forcing us to let him go for nothing is no good. We're getting used.

You're talking like the scorned ex here. If we had offered Kirk market rate initially this discussion wouldn't even exist. Ya'll are acting like Kirk asked for 30 mil a year fully guaranteed.