Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

sorry - $73Mill guaranteed for injury. No counter offer. He wanted to get to the open market. He said that in February, and it has not changed.



I firmly believe there wasn't a "reasonable" offer the Skins could have made that he would have signed.

Guaranteed for injury isn't the same as fully guaranteed money. He would have been dumb to sign that deal as offered.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

if you want to be here, you tell your agent to send a counter offer and make it happen. ESPECIALLY if it "aint about money."

I agree. I do not think he necessarily does NOT want to be here either.

He (rightfully so) needs to feel out where this organization is headed. With turnover at the GM, losing your OC, and a fresh breed of wide-outs (in addition to new DC), the team is in transition. Bruce Allen, Doug Williams, are these the guys KC wants to be married to for the next 5 years?

I think the same way the team wanted to see more of KC's stability and growth, KC wants to feel out the team for another year. I mean seriously, do you trust where this team is going? I sure as hell don't. If it were me I'd love to have a get the hell out options if shit hits the fan.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I agree. I do not think he necessarily does NOT want to be here either.

He (rightfully so) needs to feel out where this organization is headed. With turnover at the GM, losing your OC, and a fresh breed of wide-outs (in addition to new DC), the team is in transition. Bruce Allen, Doug Williams, are these the guys KC wants to be married to for the next 5 years?

I think the same way the team wanted to see more of KC's stability and growth, KC wants to feel out the team for another year. I mean seriously, do you trust where this team is going? I sure as hell don't. If it were me I'd love to have a get the hell out options if shit hits the fan.

Besides the qb fiasco now, what other part of the team are you not confident about? We have one of the best lines in football, one of the best slot receivers in football, the best tight end in football, and we made huge improvements on defense this off season including adding some young guys that will be with us for at least a few seasons. If Cousins was signed we'd 100% be heading in the right direction.

[KI Skins Fan]

I looks like Kirk is on a mission to bring fully guaranteed contracts to the NFL. The NBA players already have it. That's why you have ridiculous NBA contracts like the one Otto Porter just signed with the Wizards.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I looks like Kirk is on a mission to bring fully guaranteed contracts to the NFL. The NBA players already have it. That's why you have ridiculous NBA contracts like the one Otto Porter just signed with the Wizards.

Well, hey, maybe if Cousins is successful in bringing NBA-like contracts to the NFL, it will price Dan Snyder out of the ability to pay those contracts and he'll be forced to sell the team. (A man can only dream!)

[skinsfan69]

I truly believe that this isn't about money anymore. KC is already a wealthy man and is set for life. He's got 44 million and at least 28 next year. I really believe that he wants to see where this team is headed. He's probably the only NFL player that I can remember that's comfortable playing on one year deals.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I truly believe that this isn't about money anymore. KC is already a wealthy man and is set for life. He's got 44 million and at least 28 next year. I really believe that he wants to see where this team is headed. He's probably the only NFL player that I can remember that's comfortable playing on one year deals.

I think it effects the way he plays.

Approaching the mid point of the season last year, Kirk was going to smash the record for fewest sacks per drop back. He even said while sacks arent necessarily a good thing, his sack/drop back ratio was not a good stat and getting sacked a few times a game isnt a bad thing bc it shows you are taking chances to get the big plays and big plays swing games. He and the coaching staff were working on him trying to extend plays. To his credit I think he did start to hang tougher in the pocket after that.

Delicate balance of knowing when to try and extend plays vs avoiding a sack/negative play.

[btfoom]

Two words for all of you pro-KC posters: Joe Flacco.

At least he led them to a Super Bowl before he got his big pay-day. Since then, the Ravens have had to let good players go (and not sign top players) to pay for that giant contract. Ask any Ravens fan how happy they are with that deal and the vast majority will say 'No way'.

Based on KC's own words, his side was NEVER interested in negotiating this off-season, period. Not just the FO being stubborn. Takes 2 to tango and KC wants to see what he will get on the open market. Unless he improves his red-zone decisions as well as stops throwing those INTs when he gets pressure, he will be sadly disappointed.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by btfoom

Two words for all of you pro-KC posters: Joe Flacco.

At least he led them to a Super Bowl before he got his big pay-day. Since then, the Ravens have had to let good players go (and not sign top players) to pay for that giant contract. Ask any Ravens fan how happy they are with that deal and the vast majority will say 'No way'.

Based on KC's own words, his side was NEVER interested in negotiating this off-season, period. Not just the FO being stubborn. Takes 2 to tango and KC wants to see what he will get on the open market. Unless he improves his red-zone decisions as well as stops throwing those INTs when he gets pressure, he will be sadly disappointed.

Two words for you: Snyder and Smithers. If I have to pick sides; either Snyder and Smithers or Kirk Cousins, I'll take Kirk's side.

[MTK]

KC stands to take in $77M over 3 years of the tag, fully guaranteed. I'm still failing to see how he's playing this wrong or why he should take a penny less.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by MTK

KC stands to take in $77M over 3 years of the tag, fully guaranteed. I'm still failing to see how he's playing this wrong or why he should take a penny less.

Because most teams that aren't fucking retarded wouldn't have tagged him 3 years in a row(if we do next season) and would have done a LTD two years ago.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Because most teams that aren't fucking retarded wouldn't have tagged him 3 years in a row(if we do next season) and would have done a LTD two years ago.

Very true and I wholeheartedly agree. But we did tag him twice, and now he does have that leverage.

That toothpaste isn't going back inside that tube.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Because most teams that aren't fucking retarded wouldn't have tagged him 3 years in a row(if we do next season) and would have done a LTD two years ago.

this.

Question to the faithful...after he signs it, can a long term deal still be struck? Brain is turning to piss, but I think we still can.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

this.

Question to the faithful...after he signs it, can a long term deal still be struck? Brain is turning to piss, but I think we still can.

no more deals can be done till next offseason, but next year if we FT him again, we would have till July 15th. and he still wouldn't sign because KC wants to see what his market value is. (I think he will be disappointed like most FA's that think to high of themselves).

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

no more deals can be done till next offseason, but next year if we FT him again, we would have till July 15th. and he still wouldn't sign because KC wants to see what his market value is. (I think he will be disappointed like most FA's that think to high of themselves).

Well, let KC prove his worth this year. I'm rooting for him to succeed (of course) regardless as to what happens next year. Let him prove it. But know that us Redskins fans have very high expectations this year.