Redskins Free Agent Signings

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I still am definitely in favor of BPA, with common sense injected. For example if you're set a a position, like I'd say we are at offensive tackle, then you rule that position out. Probably put TE in that bucket too.

But other than that I'm taking BPA. There's no other spot on the field where we couldn't use a good player.

So they are set at TE ? not really, Reed is injury prone, Davis is old, and Paul will probably be cut. Carrier meh.... I would take one in the 4th or 5th round

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

So they are set at TE ? not really, Reed is injury prone, Davis is old, and Paul will probably be cut. Carrier meh.... I would take one in the 4th or 5th round

I could get on board with that. I am generally speaking a BPA guy, with strong preference that my first rounder be someone who could get on the field a lot during his first season. So no TE in the first round for me.

By the time we get to rounds four and five, I'd look at every single position, even OT. Nsekhe won't be with us in 2018 when he becomes FA, he will probably get a starting gig.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I could get on board with that. I am generally speaking a BPA guy, with strong preference that my first rounder be someone who could get on the field a lot during his first season. So no TE in the first round for me.

By the time we get to rounds four and five, I'd look at every single position, even OT. Nsekhe won't be with us in 2018 when he becomes FA, he will probably get a starting gig.

I would take OJ Howard in the first round. And Evan Engram in the second - Ingram could be considered a big WR or a small TE. A Great athlete.

Evan Engram | Mississippi, TE : 2017 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

I would take OJ Howard in the first round. And Evan Ingram in the second - Ingram could be considered a big WR or a small TE. A Great athlete.

They may both be great players but if we don't address the defense until the third round nothing will change as far as winning and losing.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by punch it in

They may both be great players but if we don't address the defense until the third round nothing will change as far as winning and losing.

It is unlikely a great defensive player will be available at #17. I would trade down and get an extra 2nd or 3rd. Then BPA in the late first.....RB/DL/ ILB/CB

2nd DL or S Jones NC State
3rd DL
3rd G
4th CB
4th ILB
5th RB
6th TE
6th C
7th S

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

It is unlikely a great defensive player will be available at #17. I would trade down and get an extra 2nd or 3rd. Then BPA in the late first.....RB/DL/ ILB/CB



2nd DL or S Jones NC State

3rd DL

3rd G

4th CB

4th ILB

5th RB

6th TE

6th C

7th S

We don't need "great" though that would be nice. We need "solid". Our D was atrocious. May not find a hof'er at 17, but certainly a starter. I like your idea and your position picks though. Pretty much covers all our needs. Except I think Brown and Foster could be a great tandem at ILB. Depth never hurts though.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

We don't need "great" though that would be nice. We need "solid". Our D was atrocious. May not find a hof'er at 17, but certainly a starter. I like your idea and your position picks though. Pretty much covers all our needs. Except I think Brown and Foster could be a great tandem at ILB. Depth never hurts though.

You mean this Foster?

https://youtu.be/IPgiyYDKQe8

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

I would take OJ Howard in the first round. And Evan Engram in the second - Ingram could be considered a big WR or a small TE. A Great athlete.

Evan Engram*|*Mississippi,*TE*:*2017 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

I don't think TE in the first round makes any sense.

Last year, we were already loaded at WR, but two were in the final years of their contract, so it was easy to see how Doctson would get the opportunity to start for the majority of his rookie contract.

But we have Reed under contract for four more seasons, and Davis was just signed for three. So if you pick a stud TE in round one, he either sits in 3rd string for the majority of his rookie deal, or it puts big money on our bench. Just doesn't make any sense.

They won't pick a TE in round one, I'll guarantee you that.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't think TE in the first round makes any sense.

Last year, we were already loaded at WR, but two were in the final years of their contract, so it was easy to see how Doctson would get the opportunity to start for the majority of his rookie contract.

But we have Reed under contract for four more seasons, and Davis was just signed for three. So if you pick a stud TE in round one, he either sits in 3rd string for the majority of his rookie deal, or it puts big money on our bench. Just doesn't make any sense.

They won't pick a TE in round one, I'll guarantee you that.

Again, Reed has never played a full season. There is no chance OJ Howard sits behind V Davis. They could play a lot of two TEs sets and actually run the ball on third and two.

I guess you would pass on Rob Gronkowski too.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Again, Reed has never played a full season. There is no chance OJ Howard sits behind V Davis. They could play a lot of two TEs sets and actually run the ball on third and two.



I guess you would pass on Rob Gronkowski too.

Team has way too many more pressing holes to fill than tight end. Schneed is correct - no way we take a TE in round 1. If your crystal ball says he is Gronk 2.0 that stays healthy for the next 10-15 years though than let's talk. Lol

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Team has way too many more pressing holes to fill than tight end. Schneed is correct - no way we take a TE in round 1. If your crystal ball says he is Gronk 2.0 that stays healthy for the next 10-15 years though than let's talk. Lol

See I totally would say if TE is BPA then you have to take that player. Let's say OJ Howard falls and they think he's BPA. Are you going to pass on him cause you have Reed and old ass Davis?? He potentially could be a better overall TE than Reed. Reed has two things going against him... He can't block my mom and he has serious concussion issues.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Again, Reed has never played a full season. There is no chance OJ Howard sits behind V Davis. They could play a lot of two TEs sets and actually run the ball on third and two.

I guess you would pass on Rob Gronkowski too.

Sorry brother, it just doesn't make sense. Vernon Davis was JUST signed to a deal averaging $5M per season. So that should tell you how much they think of him.

OJ Howard would probably come in and be 2nd string ahead of him, if they drafted him, you're right.

But would you have a $5M player playing as a 3rd stringer? Davis currently has the 12th highest cap hit on the roster.

They're not drafting OJ Howard. Just let it go.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Sorry brother, it just doesn't make sense. Vernon Davis was JUST signed to a deal averaging $5M per season. So that should tell you how much they think of him.

OJ Howard would probably come in and be 2nd string ahead of him, if they drafted him, you're right.

But would you have a $5M player playing as a 3rd stringer? Davis currently has the 12th highest cap hit on the roster.

They're not drafting OJ Howard. Just let it go.

It is unlikely OJ Howard will be available. However, they would be foolish to pass on him if he is available. V Davis will be 34 at the end of this season. And there are not many productive TEs that are 35 or 36.

Also, only half of his contract is guaranteed . There is zero chance they pay a 36 year old TE $6+ million.

Vernon Davis Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money | Over The Cap

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Again, Reed has never played a full season. There is no chance OJ Howard sits behind V Davis. They could play a lot of two TEs sets and actually run the ball on third and two.

I guess you would pass on Rob Gronkowski too.

My hang up is...I don't think OJ Howard will be a cant miss TE. I think they are some great depth at TE this draft. And OJ Howard doesn't have Reed's or Gronk's hands. He just doesn't.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

My hang up is...I don't think OJ Howard will be a cant miss TE. I think they are some great depth at TE this draft. And OJ Howard doesn't have Reed's or Gronk's hands. He just doesn't.

And nobody runs routes as well as Reed. But this is an argument that says OJ Howard isn't likely to be your BPA at 17 (and I agree), as opposed to an argument against picking a TE at 17 even if he's BPA.

Refutable thinks the team would make a move with its first rounder that would relegate a $5M player to 3rd string. I mean I don't know what to say.

Moot point. It. Will. Not. Happen.

Moving on.