When is Enough ,Enough?

[Chico23231]

Big win yesterday getting EU to come to us, sit down at our table and work out some things.

https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...-trade/566111/

Earlier this month, in a little-noticed move, the European Commission approved imports of a widely used genetically modified soybean variety, a boon for U.S. farmers and grain traders who’ve long denounced Europe’s limits on GM food imports as protectionism in disguise. When Juncker spoke of increasing European purchases of U.S. soybeans, he was doing more than blowing smoke—the Commission had already laid the groundwork for doing so. If Europe does indeed import more U.S. soybeans, China’s retaliatory measures will prove that much less effective.


The EU deal is more bad news for China

[Chico23231]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/addison...-t-shirt-case/

Oregon student disciplined for "Trump Border Wall" T-shirt to get $25,000 and an apology

Freedom wins again folks!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/addison...-t-shirt-case/

Oregon student disciplined for "Trump Border Wall" T-shirt to get $25,000 and an apology

Freedom wins again folks!

So when will trump apologize for all the stupid stuff he has done?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/addison...-t-shirt-case/

Oregon student disciplined for "Trump Border Wall" T-shirt to get $25,000 and an apology

Freedom wins again folks!

From the article:

The case highlights the struggle among schools to balance free-speech rights with keeping students safe, as acrimony intensifies over America's immigration policies and enforcement.

my new slogan (taken from the gun debate)

t-shirts don't kill people, people kill t-shirts


In all seriousness, the liberal progressive thinks that the bill of rights is worthless for anyone who disagrees with their concept of harm.
A liberal's motto -
Freedom of speech, if I approve it
Freedom to bear arms, if we like you
Freedom from secret searches, wrong if you are a criminal (but ok for opposition candidates)

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

From the article:


my new slogan (taken from the gun debate)

t-shirts don't kill people, people kill t-shirts


In all seriousness, the liberal progressive thinks that the bill of rights is worthless for anyone who disagrees with their concept of harm.
A liberal's motto -
Freedom of speech, if I approve it
Freedom to bear arms, if we like you
Freedom from secret searches, wrong if you are a criminal (but ok for opposition candidates)

You just described every trump cult member alive.Your bias is showing.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/


https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...e-about-campus

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-war-o...llege-campuses

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

You just described every trump cult member alive.Your bias is showing.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/


https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...e-about-campus

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-war-o...llege-campuses

Was a full fledged bias post.

I can continue the winning points all year long. Take away trump hate and y'all got nothing. I've got economic factors, geopolitical reality(not fear mongering based in trump hate), and regulatory relief to cite every time.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Was a full fledged bias post.

I can continue the winning points all year long. Take away trump hate and y'all got nothing. I've got economic factors, geopolitical reality(not fear mongering based in trump hate), and regulatory relief to cite every time.

No, no y'all don't. What y'all got is a cult using "alternative facts" to give justification to trump fucking over america.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/addison...-t-shirt-case/

Oregon student disciplined for "Trump Border Wall" T-shirt to get $25,000 and an apology

Freedom wins again folks!

I actually agree on this one, they shouldn't have "suspended" the kid. It would be justified if it said "deport the spics" or some actual racist garbage, but the shirt manages to get the implied point across without saying it directly. To make an analogy here, unfortunately using lament's terms is an effective strategy today, people like Richard Spencer can come out and claim white supremacy groups aren't about getting rid of minorities, it's about white rights being trampled on.

[CRedskinsRule]

to put it another way, if Trump's scandals lead to impeachable offenses, then he will be gone,

BUT, the policies-national and international, confirmed court appointments, and regulatory actions he has implemented so far have been in keeping with the ideals of what he was sent to do, and so far the country has seen continued and better economic growth, reduced threats from NK and ISIS, and none of the doom and gloom narrative that has been pushed by many opinion writers and social media outlets.

If there was one group of people that should truly be "impeached" it's the entire congress - both parties. [partial sarcasm]We ought to enact a constitutional amendment that says if Congress' poll numbers are below 20% favorable at any point in the legislative session, all sitting members of congress are barred from seeking re-election. [end partial sarcasm]

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

to put it another way, if Trump's scandals lead to impeachable offenses, then he will be gone,

BUT, the policies-national and international, confirmed court appointments, and regulatory actions he has implemented so far have been in keeping with the ideals of what he was sent to do, and so far the country has seen continued and better economic growth, reduced threats from NK and ISIS, and none of the doom and gloom narrative that has been pushed by many opinion writers and social media outlets.

If there was one group of people that should truly be "impeached" it's the entire congress - both parties. [partial sarcasm]We ought to enact a constitutional amendment that says if Congress' poll numbers are below 20% favorable at any point in the legislative session, all sitting members of congress are barred from seeking re-election. [end partial sarcasm]

Serious question for you. (Let me fluff it up first so I might get a legit answer. Kudos to Trump for the impressive economic growth.)

What percentage of economic growth would be acceptable to ignore the possible reality Trump had pre-presidential loans that came from Kremlin-connected officials?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

Serious question for you. (Let me fluff it up first so I might get a legit answer. Kudos to Trump for the impressive economic growth.)

What percentage of economic growth would be acceptable to ignore the possible reality Trump had pre-presidential loans that came from Kremlin-connected officials?

If all the dust settles and Trump broke any laws then he should be impeached, and have a Senate trial. I don't honestly think anyone thinks otherwise.

Now let me put the G1 imposed Trumpeteer speak into it. I don't trust most if any of the ongoing investigations. I think that there was clear bias before and after the election to excuse illegal activity from HRC, and clear bias to find any way to impede Trump's agenda.

BUT, the legal documents will tell the story. The IG report told a part of a story, but 1 - the IG doesn't have subpoena power or criminal charging power (but note that due to the IG report alot of the top players are gone now to me that says something) - and 2) the IG report was focused on the specific HRC email issues, and the agents running it were breaking the same rules!

SO to go further, I believe the IG has 3 ongoing investigations into bias/improper Justice dept acts, and based on his last report I think he is doing his best to be a neutral observer, so I will put a lot of stock into what his reports say (not what the media says they say and I will read them like I did the HRC one released)

If Mueller's probe finishes, and he only finds a meandering obstruction charge around Comey's firing, it won't impact me. If he finds substantial financial illegalities, and he very well may, then there should be a house impeachment vote and senate trial.



Noone, not HRC, or DT, should be above the law in our system.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

Serious question for you. (Let me fluff it up first so I might get a legit answer. Kudos to Trump for the impressive economic growth.)

What percentage of economic growth would be acceptable to ignore the possible reality Trump had pre-presidential loans that came from Kremlin-connected officials?

also my last post turned long winded so here is a one liner

if Trump broke criminal felony laws, and legal documents prove it by a Senate trial then he should not be president, regardless of economic growth, policy changes I see as positive, or any other consideration.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

also my last post turned long winded so here is a one liner

if Trump broke criminal felony laws, and legal documents prove it by a Senate trial then he should not be president, regardless of economic growth, policy changes I see as positive, or any other consideration.

What if he broke his oath of Office?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

to put it another way, if Trump's scandals lead to impeachable offenses, then he will be gone,

BUT, the policies-national and international, confirmed court appointments, and regulatory actions he has implemented so far have been in keeping with the ideals of what he was sent to do, and so far the country has seen continued and better economic growth, reduced threats from NK and ISIS, and none of the doom and gloom narrative that has been pushed by many opinion writers and social media outlets.

If there was one group of people that should truly be "impeached" it's the entire congress - both parties. [partial sarcasm]We ought to enact a constitutional amendment that says if Congress' poll numbers are below 20% favorable at any point in the legislative session, all sitting members of congress are barred from seeking re-election. [end partial sarcasm]

LOL, "IF"?!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL, "IF"?!

Ok. I agree the entire congress SHOULD be impeached