Training Camp 2017

[sdskinsfan2001]

Its weird how our roster is way better than last year when we were 1 game from the playoffs, but our predictions for this year are very low in a lot of publications. I think we come in 2nd. Giants in 1st and Cowboys in 3rd. With all 3 with good chance of playoffs.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Its weird how our roster is way better than last year when we were 1 game from the playoffs, but our predictions for this year are very low in a lot of publications. I think we come in 2nd. Giants in 1st and Cowboys in 3rd. With all 3 with good chance of playoffs.

Just read an article on ESPN Insider titled: "Predicting the results of every NFL team's boldest offseason move." Here is what they had to say about the Redskins:

Washington Redskins

The move: Not finding a way to improve relations with QB Kirk Cousins

Prediction: Cousins' stats will suffer some in 2017 after the team lost coordinator McVay and key receivers, making it somewhat easier for the team to spin the situation when Cousins leaves as a free agent next offseason.

And I thought one of the comments nailed it by saying:

The Redskins part should have been about whether signing Terrelle Pryor was enough to make up for losing Jackson and Garcon, not just more pandering about Cousins not signing a long term contract.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Just read an article on ESPN Insider titled: "Predicting the results of every NFL team's boldest offseason move." Here is what they had to say about the Redskins:

Washington Redskins

The move: Not finding a way to improve relations with QB Kirk Cousins

Prediction: Cousins' stats will suffer some in 2017 after the team lost coordinator McVay and key receivers, making it somewhat easier for the team to spin the situation when Cousins leaves as a free agent next offseason.

And I thought one of the comments nailed it by saying:

The Redskins part should have been about whether signing Terrelle Pryor was enough to make up for losing Jackson and Garcon, not just more pandering about Cousins not signing a long term contract.

Espn has gone from borderline ok coverage, some very good parts, to ok analysis....to now its mostly garbage. They are working more of a gossip angle, with really bad reporting and worst analysis. Hot takes rule with lil or no factual basis. The beat guys are probably the best stuff....like Keim and his counter parts.

I rarely watch it and find myself going less and less to the webpage. I mean, its really bad now. Sportscenter as a show is completely the worst its every been.

Look at the economics of the business of ESPN...the stumbles and poor decisions are legendary on what not to do.

So, Why should I expect more other than Cousins low-hanging-fruit-analysis that really panders to someone who really doesn't know football...but recognizes the name Cousins as a QB.

ESPN has gone from Icon, to tunnel vision, way to sure of itself, to most tabloid. Disney is so effing pissed.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Espn has gone from borderline ok coverage, some very good parts, to ok analysis....to now its mostly garbage. They are working more of a gossip angle, with really bad reporting and worst analysis. Hot takes rule with lil or no factual basis. The beat guys are probably the best stuff....like Keim and his counter parts.

I rarely watch it and find myself going less and less to the webpage. I mean, its really bad now. Sportscenter as a show is completely the worst its every been.

Look at the economics of the business of ESPN...the stumbles and poor decisions are legendary on what not to do.

So, Why should I expect more other than Cousins low-hanging-fruit-analysis that really panders to someone who really doesn't know football...but recognizes the name Cousins as a QB.

ESPN has gone from Icon, to tunnel vision, way to sure of itself, to most tabloid. Disney is so effing pissed.

In their defense, I feel like a lot of media outlets have been focusing on this.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Well it never hurts to have the proverbial chip on the shoulder.

Pryor and Doctson > Garcon and Jackson.

I think the biggest key to our success is Doctsons health and starting Zach Brown.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Well it never hurts to have the proverbial chip on the shoulder.

Pryor and Doctson > Garcon and Jackson.

I think the biggest key to our success is Doctsons health and starting Zach Brown.

I'd say starting Zach Brown alongside Mason Foster. They're the best we got at ILB.

Just figure out this signals calling thing already...

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

In their defense, I feel like a lot of media outlets have been focusing on this.

It is the only thing going on with the franchise that will get a lot of clicks. All sports media sites have gone full retard with posting tweets and watering down content. Real reporting is a thing of the past.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Just read an article on ESPN Insider titled: "Predicting the results of every NFL team's boldest offseason move." Here is what they had to say about the Redskins:

Washington Redskins

The move: Not finding a way to improve relations with QB Kirk Cousins

Prediction: Cousins' stats will suffer some in 2017 after the team lost coordinator McVay and key receivers, making it somewhat easier for the team to spin the situation when Cousins leaves as a free agent next offseason.

And I thought one of the comments nailed it by saying:

The Redskins part should have been about whether signing Terrelle Pryor was enough to make up for losing Jackson and Garcon, not just more pandering about Cousins not signing a long term contract.

Keeping our qb for another season is not a bold move. Its like a lot of the media root for us to fail. Its weird.

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Keeping our qb for another season is not a bold move. Its like a lot of the media root for us to fail. Its weird.

Bleacher Report went all video and social media. I don't like the new format. Like I really care what a player tweets. Give me some real news.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Its weird how our roster is way better than last year when we were 1 game from the playoffs, but our predictions for this year are very low in a lot of publications. I think we come in 2nd. Giants in 1st and Cowboys in 3rd. With all 3 with good chance of playoffs.

Well, I think most talking heads see both the Giants and Cowboys as stronger teams that, barring injury, will continue to improve - particularly the Cowboys b/c of the Dak/Zeke element (which also makes good press/clicks).

We have a really tough schedule logistically, lots of travel to the west coast and no extended home stands (most consecutive games at home is two late in the season, otherwise it rotates home/away throughout the season).

While we believe that we have improved our roster, the improvements are not the kind that jump out all at once. We are starting two new safeties - one who has yet to play it on a regular basis at the pro-level and one who, though highly drafted, has bounced through four teams in his first five years. Last year, generally, we lacked play makers on defense. On offense, we let our starting WR's walk and replaced them with a guy who couldn't get on the field last year and converted QB who most consider still very raw in the new position. Add in the offseason drama and this is a team that - to paraphrase the old adage - only a died-in-the-burgundy-wool fan could love.

Bottom line is that until the Skins show the ability to be consistent winners from year to year, they will always be picked to lose.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Well, I think most talking heads see both the Giants and Cowboys as stronger teams that, barring injury, will continue to improve - particularly the Cowboys b/c of the Dak/Zeke element (which also makes good press/clicks).

We have a really tough schedule logistically, lots of travel to the west coast and no extended home stands (most consecutive games at home is two late in the season, otherwise it rotates home/away throughout the season).

While we believe that we have improved our roster, the improvements are not the kind that jump out all at once. We are starting two new safeties - one who has yet to play it on a regular basis at the pro-level and one who, though highly drafted, has bounced through four teams in his first five years. Last year, generally, we lacked play makers on defense. On offense, we let our starting WR's walk and replaced them with a guy who couldn't get on the field last year and converted QB who most consider still very raw in the new position. Add in the offseason drama and this is a team that - to paraphrase the old adage - only a died-in-the-burgundy-wool fan could love.

Bottom line is that until the Skins show the ability to be consistent winners from year to year, they will always be picked to lose.

Joe, two winning seasons back to back though?