Media Bias

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Can you clarify on this "liberal media" thing Chico? Because these allegations are front page news now, on every outlet.

I agree with you, it's pretty despicable that Hollywood supported him over the years even though they had to know about the allegations. But it's also fairly easy to see why women waited until now to speak up, clearly they were in danger of being blacklisted if they tried to put it in public. Makes sense for people like Paltrow/Jolie to speak up now that they have established reputations.

And I agree about people like Roman Polaski, Woody Allen, etc. how people continue to ignore the widespread allegations because of their industry cred is beyond me.

Like I was telling my coworker, am I going to stop watching movies produced by The Weinstein Co. because Harvey is clearly a shithead? No, for the same reason I continue to buy Nestle products despite their rep as a company that places profit over everything, including people's lives.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.75317b1e055d
Did the media help Harvey Weinstein lure his prey and smear his accusers?


liberal media gave him a pass for 15+ years...liberal Hollywood gave him a pass for 15+.....now, Im now gonna explain the interest..its fairly obvious.

Its also clearly obvious both of these institutions are inherently liberal. Hollywood and the Media.

And its clear neither of these institution hold no moral weight in telling the American people how to live and how to think. Its clear.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.75317b1e055d
Did the media help Harvey Weinstein lure his prey and smear his accusers?


liberal media gave him a pass for 15+ years...liberal Hollywood gave him a pass for 15+.....now, Im now gonna explain the interest..its fairly obvious.

Its also clearly obvious both of these institutions are inherently liberal. Hollywood and the Media.

And its clear neither of these institution hold no moral weight in telling the American people how to live and how to think. Its clear.

Do you really think he needed the media to lure his victims? Pretty sure they were lured by his status as the head of one of the most powerful companies in Hollywood, and the knowledge that working with him could elevate their careers like few others could. If you're a young actor trying to find work in Hollywood, of course you'd take the call, or arrange the face to face meeting. Unless you knew other insiders how would you know his reputation for sexually harassing young talent?

Also why do you feel the need to blame the entire media for the journalists he had on his payroll, the ones that he used to discredit victims when they tried to speak out? There's no evidence he had the entire media willing to put out smear campaigns whenever he needed it. Did he have more than a few? Yes, probably. But like everything else you think a select few represents the industry as a whole.

Also, finally, the only reason I watch movies are the same reason I watch sports, it's distracting entertainment that takes me away from reality for a little bit at a time. Anybody who takes cues on how to live and think from a for-profit business probably needs to get a grip. It's just like your President fooling you into thinking he's not using his position for personal gain, trying to eliminate the estate tax, or going to his golf courses every weekend so the gov't has to pay his company every time they're there. You're a hypocrite just like the rest of them Chico. You pick and choose what to be angry about, and you ignore the obvious that everyone else can see.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

Do you really think he needed the media to lure his victims? Pretty sure they were lured by his status as the head of one of the most powerful companies in Hollywood, and the knowledge that working with him could elevate their careers like few others could. If you're a young actor trying to find work in Hollywood, of course you'd take the call, or arrange the face to face meeting. Unless you knew other insiders how would you know his reputation for sexually harassing young talent?

Also why do you feel the need to blame the entire media for the journalists he had on his payroll, the ones that he used to discredit victims when they tried to speak out? There's no evidence he had the entire media willing to put out smear campaigns whenever he needed it. Did he have more than a few? Yes, probably. But like everything else you think a select few represents the industry as a whole.

Also, finally, the only reason I watch movies are the same reason I watch sports, it's distracting entertainment that takes me away from reality for a little bit at a time. Anybody who takes cues on how to live and think from a for-profit business probably needs to get a grip. It's just like your President fooling you into thinking he's not using his position for personal gain, trying to eliminate the estate tax, or going to his golf courses every weekend so the gov't has to pay his company every time they're there. You're a hypocrite just like the rest of them Chico. You pick and choose what to be angry about, and you ignore the obvious that everyone else can see.

Well said ,I agree.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Well said ,I agree.

shockingly

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Do you really think he needed the media to lure his victims? Pretty sure they were lured by his status as the head of one of the most powerful companies in Hollywood, and the knowledge that working with him could elevate their careers like few others could. If you're a young actor trying to find work in Hollywood, of course you'd take the call, or arrange the face to face meeting. Unless you knew other insiders how would you know his reputation for sexually harassing young talent?

Also why do you feel the need to blame the entire media for the journalists he had on his payroll, the ones that he used to discredit victims when they tried to speak out? There's no evidence he had the entire media willing to put out smear campaigns whenever he needed it. Did he have more than a few? Yes, probably. But like everything else you think a select few represents the industry as a whole.

Also, finally, the only reason I watch movies are the same reason I watch sports, it's distracting entertainment that takes me away from reality for a little bit at a time. Anybody who takes cues on how to live and think from a for-profit business probably needs to get a grip. It's just like your President fooling you into thinking he's not using his position for personal gain, trying to eliminate the estate tax, or going to his golf courses every weekend so the gov't has to pay his company every time they're there. You're a hypocrite just like the rest of them Chico. You pick and choose what to be angry about, and you ignore the obvious that everyone else can see.

Nope. Im willing to think about both sides and make a decision. I just think its fraudulent that the media is willing to bend its own established ethics in order to take a side. They shouldn't be taking sides period. They shouldn't be presenting opinion as facts. This isn't right.

People are tired of it....that's part of the reason we got Trump. Its true, it was a backlash.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Nope. Im willing to think about both sides and make a decision. I just think its fraudulent that the media is willing to bend its own established ethics in order to take a side. They shouldn't be taking sides period. They shouldn't be presenting opinion as facts. This isn't right.

People are tired of it....that's part of the reason we got Trump. Its true, it was a backlash.

When that decision points to the same culprit every time it starts becoming hard to believe. Is it true that Harvey probably had people in the media that he paid to put out smear campaigns? Obviously. Are they the same enablers, like his secretary, that allowed the behavior to continue over the years? Yes. Does he also have other enablers that stood by and did nothing? Yes. Does that mean those that were silenced for fear of having their careers and reputations ruined are guilty of enabling it? No. Is that representative of the industry as a whole? No. Quit being lazy and spreading the blame to the entire industries of Hollywood and the media, and do the legwork to pinpoint the people who helped him along the way.