When is Enough ,Enough?

[CRedskinsRule]

Isis' caliphate territory is in shambles. The economy is growing at a faster rate than ever happened under Pres Obama. Unemployment is at a 17 year low, Illegal border crossings are down. Government regulations have been reduced.

People(and media) may not like Trump but if these trends all continue he will win reelection in 2020. The big question will be what happens to the Republican majorities in the 2018 election. If the Trump side of the electorate swaps a few of the lying swamp republicans for some that actually will drain the government swamp, the second 2 years might actually see some winning instead of the continued stagnation of the government swamp..

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Isis' caliphate territory is in shambles. The economy is growing at a faster rate than ever happened under Pres Obama. Unemployment is at a 17 year low, Illegal border crossings are down. Government regulations have been reduced.

People(and media) may not like Trump but if these trends all continue he will win reelection in 2020. The big question will be what happens to the Republican majorities in the 2018 election. If the Trump side of the electorate swaps a few of the lying swamp republicans for some that actually will drain the government swamp, the second 2 years might actually see some winning instead of the continued stagnation of the government swamp..

Right, all of those are things that can be directly attributed to Trump's actions, but not Obama's.

All that money in the economy is gonna be sweet when it all goes to the top, and not to the bottom. Meanwhile, climate change will inevitably progress, and when your generation is dead in a 100 years we'll be stuck with the bill. But at least your retirement will bounce back, and illegals won't be taking the prime strawberry picking/lawn mowing jobs. And when this website will be slower to access because Matty refuses to pay a higher fee so that traffic will be able to visit at the same speed as Amazon, you'll blame Obama, or some other scapegoat, for getting rid of net neutrality. And when federal public school funding drops when Devos announces her new "direct subsidies to charter schools so kids can embrace alternative teaching" methods, you won't care because that ain't your problem. And when Trump's tax plan gets approved, but it won't fix the loopholes, or close the offshore accounts where all major companies hide their profits, and your taxes go down slightly but Trump stands to save a bundle of cash by eliminating the estate tax, you'll go bragging about that minimal relief you got because Trump cares about you, the common man. And when your roads remain shit and you remain stuck in traffic because the local gov't is broke and the federal gov't doesn't have enough funds to hand out grants for major projects, you'll bitch about the corrupt ineffectiveness of gov't and say that's why they don't deserve our money. But at least Muslims won't be able to get in, because they're the ones blowing shit up and committing mass shootings all across our homeland.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

Right, all of those are things that can be directly attributed to Trump's actions, but not Obama's.

All that money in the economy is gonna be sweet when it all goes to the top, and not to the bottom. Meanwhile, climate change will inevitably progress, and when your generation is dead in a 100 years we'll be stuck with the bill. But at least your retirement will bounce back, and illegals won't be taking the prime strawberry picking/lawn mowing jobs. And when this website will be slower to access because Matty refuses to pay a higher fee so that traffic will be able to visit at the same speed as Amazon, you'll blame Obama, or some other scapegoat, for getting rid of net neutrality. And when federal public school funding drops when Devos announces her new "direct subsidies to charter schools so kids can embrace alternative teaching" methods, you won't care because that ain't your problem. And when Trump's tax plan gets approved, but it won't fix the loopholes, or close the offshore accounts where all major companies hide their profits, and your taxes go down slightly but Trump stands to save a bundle of cash by eliminating the estate tax, you'll go bragging about that minimal relief you got because Trump cares about you, the common man. And when your roads remain shit and you remain stuck in traffic because the local gov't is broke and the federal gov't doesn't have enough funds to hand out grants for major projects, you'll bitch about the corrupt ineffectiveness of gov't and say that's why they don't deserve our money. But at least Muslims won't be able to get in, because they're the ones blowing shit up and committing mass shootings all across our homeland.

My point was that, for all the political garbage that goes on, generally people vote the economy. If Isis is severely weakened, the economy continues to grow, and people feel generally contented then all that other stuff you bring up historically won't bring about a presidential election win. It will affect congressional races in local districts but the country tends to vote the economy during presidential races.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

My point was that, for all the political garbage that goes on, generally people vote the economy. If Isis is severely weakened, the economy continues to grow, and people feel generally contented then all that other stuff you bring up historically won't bring about a presidential election win. It will affect congressional races in local districts but the country tends to vote the economy during presidential races.

I know several major construction projects were finally green lighted after the trump win on my side of the county based on optimism of a less red tape and marketplace that jumped...

But I find it funny that people want obama to take credit for the trump economy success...which proves the point. Pure gold

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I know several major construction projects were finally green lighted after the trump win on my side of the county based on optimism of a less red tape and marketplace that jumped...

But I find it funny that people want obama to take credit for the trump economy success...which proves the point. Pure gold

What did trump do to "green light the projects in your county"and what were the projects,exactly?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I know several major construction projects were finally green lighted after the trump win on my side of the county based on optimism of a less red tape and marketplace that jumped...

But I find it funny that people want obama to take credit for the trump economy success...which proves the point. Pure gold

Let's be honest, any good economy was always Obama, and all negative was Bush. Now you will hear that continued trend.

Of course the people who always put the economy on the sitting President's lap will now do the same.

Fact is, Pres Obama oversaw the turnaround from the trash dumpster that was the end of the Bush years. But he also, through his anti- business stance and over regulation limited what could have been a much more dynamic expansion. With Pres. Trump coming in with promises of tax relief, easing of regulatory burdens (which I can say specifically has impacted my job in a significant reduction of paperwork), and talking up the economy and job growth here in the US, the economy - which Pres Obama had stabilized - looks like it is ready to light off some fireworks.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Let's be honest, any good economy was always Obama, and all negative was Bush. Now you will hear that continued trend.

Of course the people who always put the economy on the sitting President's lap will now do the same.

Fact is, Pres Obama oversaw the turnaround from the trash dumpster that was the end of the Bush years. But he also, through his anti- business stance and over regulation limited what could have been a much more dynamic expansion. With Pres. Trump coming in with promises of tax relief, easing of regulatory burdens (which I can say specifically has impacted my job in a significant reduction of paperwork), and talking up the economy and job growth here in the US, the economy - which Pres Obama had stabilized - looks like it is ready to light off some fireworks.

So tax relief for the rich while screwing middle Americans and getting rid of regulations that watched out for the welfare of Americans is good for business. Sorry ,BS.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

So tax relief for the rich while screwing middle Americans and getting rid of regulations that watched out for the welfare of Americans is good for business. Sorry ,BS.

You talk about Trumpeteers, but this post has 0 critical thinking attached. There are thousands of regulations that have grown out of decades of unfettered bureacracy. We certainly can look at pruning them without [add overly dramatic tone here] putting the welfare of the nation at risk.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Isis' caliphate territory is in shambles. The economy is growing at a faster rate than ever happened under Pres Obama. Unemployment is at a 17 year low, Illegal border crossings are down. Government regulations have been reduced.
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The unemployment rate is a fake number remember.?

How in the hell do you know illegal crossing are down?
How can anyone quantify this? There is no way to determine how many people are crossing or how much illegal drugs are coming in.
Believing this shows your confirmation bias

[Giantone]

Trump has been in less than a year,he has done nothing ,nothing for the economy or for jobs to say that is his doing is pure nuts and Mooby is spot on.