By Popular Demand. Should the Skins FIRE Jay Gruden? Thread

[punch it in]

Yes. Jay is an Arena League amateur. The real question should be does he deserve to finish the season.

[SolidSnake84]

Yes, i think the respectful thing to do is let Gruden coach until the end of the season, and then fire him following the conclusion of the final game.

It is already a lost season. I want to say that it cannot get worse, but there always seems to be a way for us to end up worse.

I don't agree a lot with what the junkies have to say, but they have suggested benching Cousins for the rest of the year so that you don't risk him taking a bad injury behind our horrible O-Line. However they pointed out doing that only if they ARE 100% SURE - that they want Cousins to be their long term guy.

On a side note, not sure how Cousins feels about Gruden. He certainly must appreciate Gruden for giving him his chance to be the starter, and for believing in him, but he obviously feels like he owes McVay far more - he sent that framed Jersey to McVay that said "I owe you my career"... If Cousins has ever made quotes about his relationship with JG or anything of that nature, i must have missed it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yes. Jay is an Arena League amateur. The real question should be does he deserve to finish the season.

Yes firing him now is stupid.

I was watching Gruden's coaches show last week and Cooley was kind of getting on him about why he doesn't do the QB sneak. He said Cousins doesn't have thick legs like Dalton does so that's why he hates it. Yet in the Saints game Payton had Brees do a sneak to pick up a 4th and less than a yard. Brees is like 6'0 and barely 200lbs. SMFH....

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yes firing him now is stupid.

I was watching Gruden's coaches show last week and Cooley was kind of getting on him about why he doesn't do the QB sneak. He said Cousins doesn't have thick legs like Dalton does so that's why he hates it. Yet in the Saints game Payton had Brees do a sneak to pick up a 4th and less than a yard. Brees is like 6'0 and barely 200lbs. SMFH....

We can't run a qb sneak because the qb doesn't have thick legs??? So stupid. I'm betting that Snyder fires him and I don't have to read answers like that anymore.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

We can't run a qb sneak because the qb doesn't have thick legs??? So stupid. I'm betting that Snyder fires him and I don't have to read answers like that anymore.

Yeah he actually said some stupid shit like that, but then watched a QB who's smaller than Cousins pick up a crucial 4th and short.

And don't get me started on the 13 men on the field against our defense on Thursday. How do you have 13 men on the field at this stage of the season? That's pre season shit.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yes firing him now is stupid.



I was watching Gruden's coaches show last week and Cooley was kind of getting on him about why he doesn't do the QB sneak. He said Cousins doesn't have thick legs like Dalton does so that's why he hates it. Yet in the Saints game Payton had Brees do a sneak to pick up a 4th and less than a yard. Brees is like 6'0 and barely 200lbs. SMFH....

He should be fired three times. Once for being out of his league, twice for that answer, and a third time for his punchable face.

[sdskinsfan2001]

A lot more No than Yes votes in the poll. Surprising.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yes firing him now is stupid.

I was watching Gruden's coaches show last week and Cooley was kind of getting on him about why he doesn't do the QB sneak. He said Cousins doesn't have thick legs like Dalton does so that's why he hates it. Yet in the Saints game Payton had Brees do a sneak to pick up a 4th and less than a yard. Brees is like 6'0 and barely 200lbs. SMFH....

Id guess it has to do with not trusting our center, who we signed off the street a month ago. You cant make that guy the point of attack. If gruden did that and we got stuffed, he would get criticized for that.

Our battered O line and center have taken away consistent O line push on run plays and 5-7 drop play calls on passing plays.

Injuries on offense make it hard to game plan each week, with gruden not knowing who can and cant play.

Itd be easier if we just IR'd Reed, Trent, Moses .. so we know a week in advance who is going to be playing.

Hard to grade the coaches at this point imo.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Id guess it has to do with not trusting our center, who we signed off the street a month ago. You cant make that guy the point of attack. If gruden did that and we got stuffed, he would get criticized for that.

Our battered O line and center have taken away consistent O line push on run plays and 5-7 drop play calls on passing plays.

Injuries on offense make it hard to game plan each week, with gruden not knowing who can and cant play.

Itd be easier if we just IR'd Reed, Trent, Moses .. so we know a week in advance who is going to be playing.

Hard to grade the coaches at this point imo.

This seems to be the part people forget, like we expect the same level of production that we got out of Long or Rouiller. Guy has barely been with the team for a month.

Overall good post too OTM, I agree with it in general.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Id guess it has to do with not trusting our center, who we signed off the street a month ago. You cant make that guy the point of attack. If gruden did that and we got stuffed, he would get criticized for that.

The QB sneak has got to be the easiest and most successful plays you can run in the NFL for a lineman.
We aren't asking a center to guard Von Miller at the edge, They just need to snap the ball and go forward. Hell, they don't even have to go forward, just hit a guy and let KC pick a side to dive in.

Check out this article with conversion stats:
The dying art of the QB sneak

The fact that Gruden can't coach a slant or QB sneak pisses me off.

[Giantone]

Be it far from me to be the voice of reason but about a week ago many of you were talking playoff chance's and now you want to fire the coach.
Who the hell do you think you are the Giants???

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by jamf

The QB sneak has got to be the easiest and most successful plays you can run in the NFL for a lineman.
We aren't asking a center to guard Von Miller at the edge, They just need to snap the ball and go forward. Hell, they don't even have to go forward, just hit a guy and let KC pick a side to dive in.

Check out this article with conversion stats:
The dying art of the QB sneak

The fact that Gruden can't coach a slant or QB sneak pisses me off.

Obviously the athleticism of the QB hasn't much to do with the success of the QB sneak since New England is #1.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Id guess it has to do with not trusting our center, who we signed off the street a month ago. You cant make that guy the point of attack. If gruden did that and we got stuffed, he would get criticized for that.

Our battered O line and center have taken away consistent O line push on run plays and 5-7 drop play calls on passing plays.

Injuries on offense make it hard to game plan each week, with gruden not knowing who can and cant play.

Itd be easier if we just IR'd Reed, Trent, Moses .. so we know a week in advance who is going to be playing.

Hard to grade the coaches at this point imo.

Good point.
But I don't think it was a better call to take the chance behind an injured Scherff and a limping Moses with your rookie RB.

I'm a JG defender but that is one call that I hated.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yes. Jay is an Arena League amateur. The real question should be does he deserve to finish the season.

This is one of the dumbest things I've read on this site.