Looking at the draft.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Vita Vea is a first rounder all day long. I think he is just what we need if we're going to continue to play a 3-4. It is very difficult to find a dominating NT and he is a lock to dominate, IMO. Like any rookie, he has some things to work on but the size, strength, and athletic ability are already there.

Vea is a player who was routinely double-teamed and sometimes triple-teamed in college. He is a real load against the run but he is also very good at pushing the pocket. He has a burst and a great motor. He also moves well laterally.

Were talking about a 6-4, 350 lb. presence in the middle. He is the kind of player we should want next to a speed rusher. That's because he will demand a double team and free up other defensive linemen.

If we draft him, I hope you're right and I'll fry up some black crow.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

All QBs worthy of going in round 1 come with lots and lots of hype. Allen looks like the real deal to me.

Also, saw some discussion on here about Vita Vea. Don't you guys feel like he's really slow off the ball? I watched a bunch of cut ups on YouTube, he's so strong but the last one to come out of his stance consistently.

If defensive line is the play, the only way to go is Christian Wilkins from Clemson. Quick, long armed, and strong as hell. Basically another J Allen.

I also like DaRon Payne from Bama if we go DL. I dont think we do in round 1 though

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I also like DaRon Payne from Bama if we go DL. I dont think we do in round 1 though

I like Payne as well, the kid from Michigan Hurst is real deal too.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

All QBs worthy of going in round 1 come with lots and lots of hype. Allen looks like the real deal to me.

Also, saw some discussion on here about Vita Vea. Don't you guys feel like he's really slow off the ball? I watched a bunch of cut ups on YouTube, he's so strong but the last one to come out of his stance consistently.

If defensive line is the play, the only way to go is Christian Wilkins from Clemson. Quick, long armed, and strong as hell. Basically another J Allen.

I agree, he is a little slow.

I was impressed by his effort in the 4th quarter of the bowl game. He had a really high snap count and was gassed but kept giving max effort.

I really want a fast twitch front 7 player or stud RB1 in the first round, but Vea would be hard to pass on if he is there.

[KI Skins Fan]

We should put the small school QB caveat to rest. It's about the player and not the school. Here is a list of current starting NFL QB's from small schools:

Joe Flacco, Delaware
Big Ben, Miami (Ohio)
Derek Carr, Fresno State
Blake Bortles, UCF
Josh McCown, Sam Houston State
Jimmy Garrapalo, E. Illinois

Here is a list of past NFL QB's from small schools:

Kenny Anderson, Augustana
Tony Romo, E. Illinois
Phil Simms, Morehead State (KY)
Doug Williams, Grambling
Daunte Culpepper, UCF

I'm sure there are many more NFL QB's from small schools who I can't recall right now.

[Chico23231]

Surprising all Clemson D-Linemen staying at School as well as Bryce Love deciding to return.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Clemson will now have 4 defensive lineman selected in the 1st round next year. These guys are all 1st rounders going back, thats nuts. Clemson must be a fun place to go to school. As FSU fan, this sucks, those dudes are dominant.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Clemson will now have 4 defensive lineman selected in the 1st round next year. These guys are all 1st rounders going back, thats nuts. Clemson must be a fun place to go to school. As FSU fan, this sucks, those dudes are dominant.

Clemson will be the best team in college next yr, that freshman QB they have coming in is apparently football jesus... Bama is losing alot of guys but I'm sure they will be a playoff team again.

[DirtBagZ]

Looked through this thread, saw the Josh Allen highlight real, hard not get excited. Anyone have reservations though? I'm old enough to remember Heath Schuler...wouldn't want to go through Heath Schuler 2.0.

[Ivar the Boneless]

Originally Posted by DirtBagZ

Looked through this thread, saw the Josh Allen highlight real, hard not get excited. Anyone have reservations though? I'm old enough to remember Heath Schuler...wouldn't want to go through Heath Schuler 2.0.

I wouldn't get overly excited about anybody before he plays his first game anymore. My alma mater Eastern Michigan beat him in '16 and EMU, although getting better, is still a mediocre team. I like him, don't get me wrong, but any pick is a risk. He is a very good player and is from a pro style offense, which should help. I rather have Allen than Darnold to be honest, and maybe even more than Rosen. The trick is to give the kid some help in the backfield and a real WR to throw to. I am on board the Allen train, but I am not going to go gaga on any pick til I see him play.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by DirtBagZ

Looked through this thread, saw the Josh Allen highlight real, hard not get excited. Anyone have reservations though?

He's has the tools. Cannon attached to his arm. Good wheels.
But his accuracy is inconsistent. His production is subpar. He's not as efficient as you expect.

[WNY SKINS FAN]

If I was running the Skins draft. I’d concentrate solely on defense this year and concentrate on offense next year. It’s been proven the last few years that a dominating defense is more important than a good offense.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by WNY SKINS FAN

If I was running the Skins draft. I’d concentrate solely on defense this year and concentrate on offense next year. It’s been proven the last few years that a dominating defense is more important than a good offense.

At least one pick is needed on offense. LG and RB are both big needs to me. But, I agree, take away the huge QB motzo ball, defense needs the most work.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by WNY SKINS FAN

If I was running the Skins draft. I’d concentrate solely on defense this year and concentrate on offense next year. It’s been proven the last few years that a dominating defense is more important than a good offense.

Tell that to the Ravens.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Tell that to the Ravens.

In all fairness they should have made the playoffs if it wasn't for a fluke