Looking at the draft.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

If we could trade down and still get Vea, Payne, or Guice in the first round, that would be money.

That's my vote. Still can get Chubb or Michel or Jones in the 2nd probably. Or Tim Settle. I hope we pick up a good G in free agency, because it will be hard to turn down a RB and DT with the first two picks.

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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by MTK

I really really want one of these top RBs at 13

Taking a RB in the first round? fuck that noise. RBs are a dime a dozen. Give me OL, DL or ILB/CB. Game is won on the front line.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Taking a RB in the first round? fuck that noise. RBs are a dime a dozen. Give me OL, DL or ILB/CB. Game is won on the front line.

We’ve been using the dime a dozen guys the past few years and our run game has been ass

Time to bring in some legit talent

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by MTK

We’ve been using the dime a dozen guys the past few years and our run game has been ass

Time to bring in some legit talent

Agree 100 with you and Quake. Would love 1st and 2nd round talent at RB and DL. Don't care which is 1st or 2nd.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Agree 100 with you and Quake. Would love 1st and 2nd round talent at RB and DL. Don't care which is 1st or 2nd.

Ditto

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by MTK

I really really want one of these top RBs at 13

I will keep saying it. Derrius Guice is my choice at 13. Bpa 2nd round and hopefully can get DJ Chark in th e mid rounds

[WillH]

https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/d...mpression=true

That's good to hear, between him and Vea we could really upgrade our run D in this draft.

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[KI Skins Fan]

I've been watching the DL drills at the Combine and Da'Ron Payne has been amazing! He is a great athlete. Here's a plan: Sign Dontari Poe in FA and then draft Payne.

[WillH]

Sucks that Vea is out of the drills with a hammy. Payne does look good. Settle has looked like poop.

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[WillH]

Originally Posted by WillH

Sucks that Vea is out of the drills with a hammy. Payne does look good. Settle has looked like poop.

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I have been in favor of getting Payne or Vea, but given the depth in the draft at other positions of need, I wouldn't mind if they go after Poe in FA.

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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by WillH

I have been in favor of getting Payne or Vea, but given the depth in the draft at other positions of need, I wouldn't mind if they go after Poe in FA.

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I like Poe.
But would signing him allow us to resign Zach Brown, and at least some among Breeland, Long, Galette, Murphy, Quick, (Paul? Hopkins?) AND find a #1 WR and a LG and/or a RB ?
We should have around 34M in cap space.

If we trade down we'll have picks to find a starting LG, and I know a lot here hope we draft a RB, but we still have a lot of needs to address.
As critical as finding another dominant DT is, I don't see the urgency of spending 2 "spots" on this position. Draft or FA, not sure about both...
Allen and Ioannidis are coming back, our DL is not as weak as the end of the season suggested.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I like Poe.
But would signing him allow us to resign Zach Brown, and at least some among Breeland, Long, Galette, Murphy, Quick, (Paul? Hopkins?) AND find a #1 WR and a LG and/or a RB ?
We should have around 34M in cap space.

If we trade down we'll have picks to find a starting LG, and I know a lot here hope we draft a RB, but we still have a lot of needs to address.
As critical as finding another dominant DT is, I don't see the urgency of spending 2 "spots" on this position. Draft or FA, not sure about both...
Allen and Ioannidis are coming back, our DL is not as weak as the end of the season suggested.

You're right. You caught me fantasizing about having a killer D-Line.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

You're right. You caught me fantasizing about having a killer D-Line.

Haha I like the idea too.
But not if it comes at the expense of finally having a running game and putting weapons around Smith.

But hey, maybe we resign most of our guys, our only significant FA signings are Poe and Paul Richardson, we manage to get a 4th/5th for Cravens, we trade down and can get a DT, a RB and a guard in the first 4 rounds... I don't hate this plan, but it contains quite a lot of unknowns and risks taken.

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[WillH]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I like Poe.
But would signing him allow us to resign Zach Brown, and at least some among Breeland, Long, Galette, Murphy, Quick, (Paul? Hopkins?) AND find a #1 WR and a LG and/or a RB ?
We should have around 34M in cap space.

If we trade down we'll have picks to find a starting LG, and I know a lot here hope we draft a RB, but we still have a lot of needs to address.
As critical as finding another dominant DT is, I don't see the urgency of spending 2 "spots" on this position. Draft or FA, not sure about both...
Allen and Ioannidis are coming back, our DL is not as weak as the end of the season suggested.

Sorry, I meant Poe instead of the draft. Because we have other holes like RB, G, WR, and LB that there is some depth in the draft at especially in rounds 2 and 3 and there aren't as great of options in FA (except G). I prefer we trade back start with LB, then go G, RB, and WR, then add some secondary and DL depth later in the draft.

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[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

As critical as finding another dominant DT is, I don't see the urgency of spending 2 "spots" on this position. Draft or FA, not sure about both...

There is definitely an argument to going all in on D line investment.

Philly from this year is the case in point.

Their secondary was mediocre at best and Cooley and other analysts named them as a weakness. Their LB corps was injured early on and continued to be banged up throughout their Super Bowl run. These "weaknesses" were covered by the play and depth of their Dline.

Philly strategically invests in the Dline and rotates them throughout the game.

Their strategy is pressure from a fresh talented Dline can and does cover deficiencies in other defensive units. It worked against one of the best QBs and game planning coaches in the league to win a world championship.

I think there is a strong argument that Dline, like a good running game, is greater than the sum of their parts and positively affects other units and game aspects.

It reduces the coverage time, and thus the time for the secondary to F up. It keeps LBs clean and unblocked to tackle a runner. It messes with a QBs timing and can get in his head.

I don't think a team can ever go wrong by drafting or signing a game changing defensive lineman.