Looking at the draft.

skinsfaninok · 12-11-2017, 03:57 PM

Jay Gruden on Kirk Cousins, "He was not quite as accurate as he has been. Everyone who has seen Kirk play in his three years, knows he missed throws he normally makes."

It's comments like this that make u really wonder if Kirk has hit his ceiling and maybe we should look at a QB?

sdskinsfan2001 · 12-11-2017, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Jay Gruden on Kirk Cousins, "He was not quite as accurate as he has been. Everyone who has seen Kirk play in his three years, knows he missed throws he normally makes."

It's comments like this that make u really wonder if Kirk has hit his ceiling and maybe we should look at a QB?

Cousins will get way more than his actually play actually warrants just the market says so. He stunk yesterday. I'd let him leave and use the money elsewhere. But most people won't agree with me.

skinsfaninok · 12-11-2017, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Cousins will get way more than his actually play actually warrants just the market says so. He stunk yesterday. I'd let him leave and use the money elsewhere. But most people won't agree with me.

Hell I am hard to agree with that because I hate not having a QB

skinsfan69 · 12-11-2017, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Cousins will get way more than his actually play actually warrants just the market says so. He stunk yesterday. I'd let him leave and use the money elsewhere. But most people won't agree with me.

When I see Minnesota rolling w/ Keenum it makes me think that paying Cousins 27-30 million isn't worth it. But we have enough games of Cousins to know he's pretty good, not the case yesterday. He did stink. I'd prefer that we put the trans tag on him, set the market and make a decision. If he leaves then go w/ Colt and draft a guy. But that means you're setting your team back cause you're creating a need, you're drafting a QB high because you don't want to pay your current starter and that pick could be someone on defense. IDK, the decision on KC is a real tough one.

sdskinsfan2001 · 12-11-2017, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

When I see Minnesota rolling w/ Keenum it makes me think that paying Cousins 27-30 million isn't worth it. But we have enough games of Cousins to know he's pretty good, not the case yesterday. He did stink. I'd prefer that we put the trans tag on him, set the market and make a decision. If he leaves then go w/ Colt and draft a guy. But that means you're setting your team back cause you're creating a need, you're drafting a QB high because you don't want to pay your current starter and that pick could be someone on defense. IDK, the decision on KC is a real tough one.

Yeah, transition tag is my preference too. Then I'd hope we didn't match the offer. Get extra picks and get a cheap QB for next 5 years while we build the rest of the team.

skinsfaninok · 12-11-2017, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Yeah, transition tag is my preference too. Then I'd hope we didn't match the offer. Get extra picks and get a cheap QB for next 5 years while we build the rest of the team.

If we let Kirk go, we need to draft a guy 1st pick. If not then you are just getting worse

Buffalo Bob · 12-11-2017, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

When I see Minnesota rolling w/ Keenum it makes me think that paying Cousins 27-30 million isn't worth it. But we have enough games of Cousins to know he's pretty good, not the case yesterday. He did stink. I'd prefer that we put the trans tag on him, set the market and make a decision. If he leaves then go w/ Colt and draft a guy. But that means you're setting your team back cause you're creating a need, you're drafting a QB high because you don't want to pay your current starter and that pick could be someone on defense. IDK, the decision on KC is a real tough one.

I agree, all things considered Cousins is around a the #10 NFL QB, problem is someone will throw elite money at him because they are desperate. Overpaying for players can come back to bite you. When it comes to NFL free agents what they make is all about timing, and Kirk will hit the jackpot.

skinsfaninok · 12-11-2017, 04:18 PM

Kirk made a great play getting away from pressure and throwing a td but that INT was backup QB like and he does that too often

KI Skins Fan · 12-11-2017, 04:29 PM

Now that Jay Gruden essentially fired himself by quitting at the end of the Chargers game and then admitting it, there is no reason to hold onto Kirk Cousins. We should have a new HC soon and we probably won't be in a position to win for at least a couple more years.

Josh Norman should probably be traded to a contender for draft picks. It would be good for us and for him, too, under the circumstances.

Ivar the Boneless · 12-12-2017, 12:17 AM

If Kirk plays out the way he did Sunday, I don't think he will garner much trade interest. In fact, him doing so badly will bring the amount he gets down, way down. He is exposing himself as to what he truly is at this point. 3-4 weeks ago, all the pundits were pay the man, now he is a big question mark. He isn't worth $25 million, especially since he has nothing to work with. By the time you gave him the proper tools he needs to succeed, he will be up for renewal again. Face it, the roster overall is junk.

MTK · 12-12-2017, 07:32 AM

Cousins would draw plenty of interest on the open market. His value is not going to swing wildly based on a couple of games in an injury riddled and now lost season. Just stop.

irish · 12-12-2017, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Cousins would draw plenty of interest on the open market. His value is not going to swing wildly based on a couple of games in an injury riddled and now lost season. Just stop.

I agree that KC's will draw a lot of interest and that's because he is by far the best QB that will be available and a few games at the end of this disaster of a season dont matter. IMO what could impact his value is the quantity of the other QBs available.

SFREDSKIN · 12-12-2017, 10:33 AM

Per AD:

Washington safety Su’a Cravens has received medical clearance to resume all football activities and plans to play next season, per his agent @fadde.

We’ll see where he ends up. I say Rams.

MTK · 12-12-2017, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Per AD:

Washington safety Su’a Cravens has received medical clearance to resume all football activities and plans to play next season, per his agent @fadde.

We’ll see where he ends up. I say Rams.

He’ll end up right back here

skinsfaninok · 12-12-2017, 11:01 AM

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He’ll end up right back here

He wasn't better than Monte anyway

12-11-2017, 04:18 PM	#8
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: Looking at the draft. Kirk made a great play getting away from pressure and throwing a td but that INT was backup QB like and he does that too often __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,412	Re: Looking at the draft. Now that Jay Gruden essentially fired himself by quitting at the end of the Chargers game and then admitting it, there is no reason to hold onto Kirk Cousins. We should have a new HC soon and we probably won't be in a position to win for at least a couple more years. Josh Norman should probably be traded to a contender for draft picks. It would be good for us and for him, too, under the circumstances. __________________ I'm a big Caitlin Clark fan!

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MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,044	Looking at the draft. Cousins would draw plenty of interest on the open market. His value is not going to swing wildly based on a couple of games in an injury riddled and now lost season. Just stop. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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12-11-2017, 03:57 PM	#1
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: Looking at the draft. Jay Gruden on Kirk Cousins, "He was not quite as accurate as he has been. Everyone who has seen Kirk play in his three years, knows he missed throws he normally makes." It's comments like this that make u really wonder if Kirk has hit his ceiling and maybe we should look at a QB? __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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Ivar the Boneless Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 71	Re: Looking at the draft. If Kirk plays out the way he did Sunday, I don't think he will garner much trade interest. In fact, him doing so badly will bring the amount he gets down, way down. He is exposing himself as to what he truly is at this point. 3-4 weeks ago, all the pundits were pay the man, now he is a big question mark. He isn't worth $25 million, especially since he has nothing to work with. By the time you gave him the proper tools he needs to succeed, he will be up for renewal again. Face it, the roster overall is junk.

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