By Popular Demand. Should the Skins FIRE Jay Gruden? Thread

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Gruden's record with McVay and his record without McVay speaks volumes.

His complete inability to field a competitive defense over FOUR SEASONS also is damning. He doesn't know how to hire a defensive coordinator.

Because Gruden doesn't have the power to hire his defensive coordinator. Bruce Allen does all the hiring and firing. He may have Gruden involved in the interview process, but Allen ultimately decides who he wants in there coaching. That is all on Bruce Allen, NOT on Jay Gruden.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Because Gruden doesn't have the power to hire his defensive coordinator. Bruce Allen does all the hiring and firing. He may have Gruden involved in the interview process, but Allen ultimately decides who he wants in there coaching. That is all on Bruce Allen, NOT on Jay Gruden.

Again I'd rather have Jerry Jones run my team

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Again I'd rather have Jerry Jones run my team

I haven't seen anything to brag about with Jerry Jones. Yes, the Cowboys have had a couple really good seasons in the past decade. They have also had several losing seasons and 8-8 seasons.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by metalskins

I haven't seen anything to brag about with Jerry Jones. Yes, the Cowboys have had a couple really good seasons in the past decade. They have also had several losing seasons and 8-8 seasons.

They are 20 games over 500 in the last 10 years, I'd take that.

He also knows how to build a team, they have a ton of young talent at key positions.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

They are 20 games over 500 in the last 10 years, I'd take that.



He also knows how to build a team, they have a ton of young talent at key positions.

If you’re wishing for a new owner why Jones instead of Kraft? Might as well go for the best in the biz vs a guy who would make you just a little better than you are now.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

They are 20 games over 500 in the last 10 years, I'd take that.

He also knows how to build a team, they have a ton of young talent at key positions.

In a 16 game season, that averages out to probably around 9-7 each year. That's pretty much what we already have.

It has taken Jones how long to build said team? And even so, the team might still miss the playoffs this year. Honestly, Jones, no thanks.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Because Gruden doesn't have the power to hire his defensive coordinator. Bruce Allen does all the hiring and firing. He may have Gruden involved in the interview process, but Allen ultimately decides who he wants in there coaching. That is all on Bruce Allen, NOT on Jay Gruden.

That's not accurate. Jay selected Manusky.

[sdskinsfan2001]

We suck on 3rd and 4th downs, we suck in the redzone, and we suck at the end of halfs and games. Those are all very critical to winning games. 4 years is no small sample size. Gruden just isn't getting it done. And on top of it, his answers to questions are mind blowing. Teams reflect the personality of their coach. Gruden literally admitted to quitting during the game. Eff that. No wonder we keep getting smoked. We need a no non-sense hard nosed coach. We've needed that for a long time. I'd rather actually hire a defensive coach to be HC. We keep hiring offensive guys.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

We suck on 3rd and 4th downs, we suck in the redzone, and we suck at the end of halfs and games. Those are all very critical to winning games. 4 years is no small sample size. Gruden just isn't getting it done. And on top of it, his answers to questions are mind blowing. Teams reflect the personality of their coach. Gruden literally admitted to quitting during the game. Eff that. No wonder we keep getting smoked. We need a no non-sense hard nosed coach. We've needed that for a long time. I'd rather actually hire a defensive coach to be HC. We keep hiring offensive guys.

The whole O/S

*McVay leaving
* Scot fired
* PG/Djax Leaving
* KC contract
* Cravens AWOL

All have damaged this team and then on top of that you throw in a horrible roster of wr's, injuries mount up, NEW DEFENSE that still sucks..

All of that is hard to get over, and when your HC is already having issues in critical moments of games , non of that helps.

Another stat I saw the other day was the skins are the worst team in the league under 2mins on BOTH sides of the ball.

We give up the most and score the least in 2min situations, that is not acceptable, and yes that is on coaching.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The whole O/S

*McVay leaving
* Scot fired
* PG/Djax Leaving
* KC contract
* Cravens AWOL

All have damaged this team and then on top of that you throw in a horrible roster of wr's, injuries mount up, NEW DEFENSE that still sucks..

All of that is hard to get over, and when your HC is already having issues in critical moments of games , non of that helps.

Another stat I saw the other day was the skins are the worst team in the league under 2mins on BOTH sides of the ball.

We give up the most and score the least in 2min situations, that is not acceptable, and yes that is on coaching.

That's a very damning stat and not very surprising. Hard to win games if you're last in that stat. Basically means you have a very low chance of winning close games. So unless you can blowout every team you're screwing yourself.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The whole O/S

*McVay leaving
* Scot fired
* PG/Djax Leaving
* KC contract
* Cravens AWOL

All have damaged this team and then on top of that you throw in a horrible roster of wr's, injuries mount up, NEW DEFENSE that still sucks..

All of that is hard to get over, and when your HC is already having issues in critical moments of games , non of that helps.

Another stat I saw the other day was the skins are the worst team in the league under 2mins on BOTH sides of the ball.

We give up the most and score the least in 2min situations, that is not acceptable, and yes that is on coaching.

This is what bugs the shit out of me. It's like when the game is on the line these coaches piss and shit all over themselves like a 2 year old.

Gruden is to blame cause he keeps hiring Joe Barry and now Manusky. Swearinger said they didn't even practice for 2 min hurry up.

Look what McVay did w/ his defense? Goes out and hires the best guy cause he knows that's going to help him win.

I want a house cleaning!!! Including Mr. Coors Light.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This is what bugs the shit out of me. It's like when the game is on the line these coaches piss and shit all over themselves like a 2 year old.

Gruden is to blame cause he keeps hiring Joe Barry and now Manusky. Swearinger said they didn't even practice for 2 min hurry up.

Look what McVay did w/ his defense? Goes out and hires the best guy cause he knows that's going to help him win.

I want a house cleaning!!! Including Mr. Coors Light.

Jay had the chance to hire Phillips two years ago, and hired his friend Joe Barry instead. McVay is a more mature leader at 31 than Gruden will ever be.