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| View Poll Results: Anonymous Presidential Poll: Who did you vote for? | |||
| Clinton |
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16 | 44.44% |
| Trump |
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13 | 36.11% |
| Johnson |
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4 | 11.11% |
| Stein |
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1 | 2.78% |
| Other |
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2 | 5.56% |
| Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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Living Legend
Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 59
Posts: 21,744
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Re: Election Day
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That said, I believe Hillary to be a ten times worse human, and that's being polite. It says alot about our country that those two were the headliners on the ballot and none of it is good. |
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Hug Anne Spyder
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 20,596
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Re: Election Day
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Living Legend
Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 59
Posts: 21,744
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Re: Election Day
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And on that superb segue let me explain what I think is a crucial difference in response to Matty's Goldman Sachs/swamp comment. I think these terms Winning and Swamp have very different meanings to the population in general. I laid out what I saw as Winning but I also think I acknowledged that a Trump supporter's definition of winning, and a Trump opponent's definition of winning simply is not the same. Likewise the definition of the swamp is not the same from what I gather in here. For me, as a Trump supporter, the swamp is that bureacratic quagmire that finds it's home in DC and the surrounding neighborhoods, and has slowly but inexorably crept into every part of our lives with impacts that are created by unelected bureacrats who dwell at their desks regardless of who the current President is or which party is in power. These are the people who have no vested interest in the well being of the nation, only in keeping their fiefdoms alive and funded. There are elected officials who feed the swamp, and they are found in both parties. When Trump talks about draining the swamp those bureacracies are what I see him referring to. Matty used the term the swamp to refer to bankers and elitists, but they aren't what I call the swamp. I do think they have their own place in hell (Funny thing is that Alexander Hamilton, who is beloved by many because of the excellent broadway play - that is coming to the Kennedy center on my birthday in case some fellow warpathers want to pitch in and get me and my daughter tickets but I digress, Alexander Hamilton would have been in Goldman Sachs without a doubt, or perhaps he would have been a modern day Fed chairman) |
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