The hypocrisy of the ________

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

It is not BS. Everything I said is open knowledge except how or if the dossier relates to the fisa warrant.

So far Mueller has not presented any factual basis for any charges against Trump. If there are facts - not innuendo and leaks - that present a compelling case then when they are shown we can discuss them. For now the facts that are coming out, bias investigator, a team with a minimum of 8 democratic partisans including one who defended the Clinton foundation, proven facts that documents were deleted and lied with no charges filed, about all point to a less then unbiased fact finding mission.

LOL, yes ,yes it is BS. You continue the presumption of bias without any proof of it. Go back to the time line link I gave,where if any of it is false?

Interactive Timeline: Everything We Know About Russia and President Trump


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...201843092.html

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL, yes ,yes it is BS. You continue the presumption of bias without any proof of it. Go back to the time line link I gave,where if any of it is false?

Interactive Timeline: Everything We Know About Russia and President Trump


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...201843092.html

There is proof of bias, in that the FBI Investigator was demoted and reprimanded. How far that bias went, we don't know.

As to your timeline link, 6 events happen in the timeframe of the primaries and the 2016 election. None of which points to anything close to illegal, Although a VK page would be a stupid move for any Republican candidate. (Surprised Hillary didn't though cutesy wink )


Some are from before Pres Obama was elected.

The rest occur once Trump is President Elect.

NONE of your timeline is illegal in terms of Trump's actions, and the charges that were filed so far are procedural (I understand that is part of trying to get the big fish).

BUT, Huma did lie to the FBI and was not charged. Hillary DID takeover the DNC and rig the Democratic Primaries. Hillary and the DNC did pay for the Russian portion of the Steele Dossier. A democratic leaning investigator who feels like you do about Trump WAS dismissed from the investigation.

I have stated that IF Trump is convicted in the Senate, and that conviction stands, or if he resigns like Nixon, I will accept that.

Now let me ask Trump haters

• IF Mueller's investigation ends with no documented charges against Trump will you accept that conclusion.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

There is proof of bias, in that the FBI Investigator was demoted and reprimanded. How far that bias went, we don't know.

As to your timeline link, 6 events happen in the timeframe of the primaries and the 2016 election. None of which points to anything close to illegal, Although a VK page would be a stupid move for any Republican candidate. (Surprised Hillary didn't though cutesy wink )


Some are from before Pres Obama was elected.

The rest occur once Trump is President Elect.

NONE of your timeline is illegal in terms of Trump's actions, and the charges that were filed so far are procedural (I understand that is part of trying to get the big fish).

BUT, Huma did lie to the FBI and was not charged. Hillary DID takeover the DNC and rig the Democratic Primaries. Hillary and the DNC did pay for the Russian portion of the Steele Dossier. A democratic leaning investigator who feels like you do about Trump WAS dismissed from the investigation.

I have stated that IF Trump is convicted in the Senate, and that conviction stands, or if he resigns like Nixon, I will accept that.

Now let me ask Trump haters

• IF Mueller's investigation ends with no documented charges against Trump will you accept that conclusion.

Yes. I do have faith in the investigation team and if they find Flynn was acting on his own behalf then so be it.

However, I also believe because Flynn was in a leadership position on the transition team, he was also acting on Trump/Trump Jr's/Kushner's behalf. If he wasn't doing anything illegal, he wouldn't have been charged, and also pled guilty.

TBH, I find this discussion semi-pointless because obviously the investigation hasn't concluded yet. Why rush them? If there's nothing to hide, they will eventually come to that conclusion, and there's nothing to fear. So sit back, and let them come to that conclusion. The FBI isn't the judge and jury here, and I doubt a Republican majority in Congress is going to do anything unless they have some damn solid proof this was an organizational effort to collude with Russia.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

Yes. I do have faith in the investigation team and if they find Flynn was acting on his own behalf then so be it.

However, I also believe because Flynn was in a leadership position on the transition team, he was also acting on Trump/Trump Jr's/Kushner's behalf. If he wasn't doing anything illegal, he wouldn't have been charged, and also pled guilty.

TBH, I find this discussion semi-pointless because obviously the investigation hasn't concluded yet. Why rush them? If there's nothing to hide, they will eventually come to that conclusion, and there's nothing to fear. So sit back, and let them come to that conclusion. The FBI isn't the judge and jury here, and I doubt a Republican majority in Congress is going to do anything unless they have some damn solid proof this was an organizational effort to collude with Russia.

CR, I agree with Mooby ...to a point.Yes there is a very god chance all these others were doing what they did for trump and there wasn't any collusion but you said something about resigning like Nixon. You do realize Nixon was never part of the original Watergate investigation right,he got nailed in the cover up of it and I (IMPO) think trump will get nailed the same way.Mueller team is honest and I believe will find proof that many more of trumps underlings are dirty.Remember that is what trump does,he requires an oath of allegiance to him and will throw anyone he can under the bus.

My question to Chico and CR,you believe there is bias in the investigation and the media ....everywhere,what about a jury? How do you suppose we make sure there is no bias on the jury,regardless of bias by whomever a jury must decide on actual facts ,correct? The trumplings that have been snagged all have admitted to their wrong doing,what bias is there in that?