Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?

[irish]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Personally I don't rip him for being honest... I just think it tells he doesn't believe in Kirk that much, and it amazes me (in a bad way).

And I don't think that's reading too much out of it: I went back and listen to this segment again, in the same sentence he praises TW, Brandon Scherff and RK who are "Pro Bowl type guys" and are among the "few guys obviously that jump out".

So even when the team is 7-9, there are some players that you can say without any hesitation had a solid season? But not Kirk?

I'm sorry but that tells me he doesn't believe in him.

Because by that standard you could say that TW Scherff and RK "played well at times"... Even they had bad plays, RK disappeared in some games, Scherff wasn't ALWAYS that great in the run game, TW was awesome even when hurt but he did gave away some sacks...

I think these 3 are really good players but I think Kirk is right there with them.

He's part of why we're not 4-13, he's not part of why we're not 11-5, so to hear the HC sort of pin the 7-9 season on him is unfair and not a good sign if you hope Kirk's staying here.

(Didn't read the article but here's a video of the segment I'm talking about: Jay Gruden wasn't overly critical of Kirk Cousins, but he was honest | NBC Sports Washington )

Kirk has been his starter for what 3 years and yet somehow JG doesn't believe in him because of a comment or two. I think people are looking waaay too deep into all of this. If JG didn't believe in Kirk then he wouldn't be the starting QB.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by irish

Kirk has been his starter for what 3 years and yet somehow JG doesn't believe in him because of a comment or two. I think people are looking waaay too deep into all of this. If JG didn't believe in Kirk then he wouldn't be the starting QB.

Agree. I think it's because most people are much, much more sensitive than NFL players and coaches are.

If you can't handle an honest assessment of your performance and handle constructive criticism then the NFL isn't for you. Don't project your mamby pamby sensibilities on Kirk Cousins and Jay Gruden. They're in the NFL for a reason, one of which is they've got bigger onions than you.

Gruden likes Cousins. Gruden wants Cousins. But he's right in pointing out Cousins had some stinkers. It doesn't mean Cousins hates Gruden or hates being a Redskin.

Same goes for the overblown bullshit about Snyder snubbing him for RG3 after Cousins won that game as a rookie against the Browns. Overblown nonsense. Just because you're a drama queen doesn't mean these guys are.

Cousins will simply weigh all of his options. If he leaves, then it will be on Gruden Snyder and Allen to look in the mirror and realize that the Redskins aren't the model franchise they'd all like it to be. It would be yet another dose of constructive criticism. They wouldn't curl up with a blanket, a pint of Ben & Jerry's and have a good cry. They'd take it on the chin and get to work. Hopefully by firing Allen.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Agree. I think it's because most people are much, much more sensitive than NFL players and coaches are.

If you can't handle an honest assessment of your performance and handle constructive criticism then the NFL isn't for you. Don't project your mamby pamby sensibilities on Kirk Cousins and Jay Gruden. They're in the NFL for a reason, one of which is they've got bigger onions than you.

Gruden likes Cousins. Gruden wants Cousins. But he's right in pointing out Cousins had some stinkers. It doesn't mean Cousins hates Gruden or hates being a Redskin.

Same goes for the overblown bullshit about Snyder snubbing him for RG3 after Cousins won that game as a rookie against the Browns. Overblown nonsense. Just because you're a drama queen doesn't mean these guys are.

Cousins will simply weigh all of his options. If he leaves, then it will be on Gruden Snyder and Allen to look in the mirror and realize that the Redskins aren't the model franchise they'd all like it to be. It would be yet another dose of constructive criticism. They wouldn't curl up with a blanket, a pint of Ben & Jerry's and have a good cry. They'd take it on the chin and get to work. Hopefully by firing Allen.

I don't think these comments hurt Kirk's feeling. If they did I don't care, it's a business. I just think by comparing those comments to others and trying to read the situation you can deduct things... Granted you can also be wrong doing so.

Btw, as Kevin Sheehan pointed out yesterday, Kirk did say during his charity event that he was surprised Jay pinned the 7 - 9 season on him.

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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by irish

Kirk has been his starter for what 3 years and yet somehow JG doesn't believe in him because of a comment or two. I think people are looking waaay too deep into all of this. If JG didn't believe in Kirk then he wouldn't be the starting QB.

He believes "he's a very good QB, but ...". He believes he's good but he doesn't seem to be all in on "Pay the guy I want him back at any price".

And maybe he's right. I don't know. All I'm saying is I'm not sure he's as high on Kirk as the narrative was last season.

And maybe a HC shouldn't be crazy high on any player, maybe it's ok. It's just a bit disappointing when you really want Kirk to be back.