The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

Giantone · 02-07-2018, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

If tagged he would sign in a heartbeat. By not signing he can’t be traded, possibly interested teams would have to move on with either finding a QB in free agency or the draft. And why wouldn’t you lock yourself into $34M vs 0?

Okay I go back to the Skins signing of Josh Norman. Wasn't he tagged and then they dropped the tag after the free agent period or something like that?

HailGreen28 · 02-07-2018, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Okay I go back to the Skins signing of Josh Norman. Wasn't he tagged and then they dropped the tag after the free agent period or something like that?

No, because the Skins signed him very soon after Carolina rescinded the tag.

CRedskinsRule · 02-07-2018, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Okay I go back to the Skins signing of Josh Norman. Wasn't he tagged and then they dropped the tag after the free agent period or something like that?

Norman had not signed his tag. Until it is signed the team can rescind it. Norman was headed back to sign his when the Panthers pulled the FT offer.

Giantone · 02-07-2018, 08:17 AM

Ok, wasn't sure how that went down.

HailGreen28 · 02-07-2018, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

If tagged he would sign in a heartbeat. By not signing he can’t be traded, possibly interested teams would have to move on with either finding a QB in free agency or the draft. And why wouldn’t you lock yourself into $34M vs 0?

Yes, Kirk should sign the tag immediately. And then the "fun" begins.

sandtrapjack · 02-07-2018, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

If tagged he would sign in a heartbeat. By not signing he can’t be traded, possibly interested teams would have to move on with either finding a QB in free agency or the draft. And why wouldn’t you lock yourself into $34M vs 0?

By not signing, he becomes a free agent when the new league year starts on March 14th. Kirk holds all cards here.

MTK · 02-07-2018, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

By not signing, he becomes a free agent when the new league year starts on March 14th. Kirk holds all cards here.

pretty sure it doesn’t work like that

Schneed10 · 02-07-2018, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

pretty sure it doesn’t work like that

You're right it does not. That's an embarrassingly poor display of knowledge by sandtrap. Franchise tag means you can't negotiate with anybody except the team that applies it, unless that team gives you permission to talk with somebody.

metalskins · 02-07-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

You're right it does not. That's an embarrassingly poor display of knowledge by sandtrap. Franchise tag means you can't negotiate with anybody except the team that applies it, unless that team gives you permission to talk with somebody.

Exclusive Franchise Tag means that. Non-Exclusive grants the right to negotiate with other teams. The Redskins cannot apply the non-exclusive this year.

CRedskinsRule · 02-07-2018, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

By not signing, he becomes a free agent when the new league year starts on March 14th. Kirk holds all cards here.

No. If the redskins apply the tag he would not be a free agent. The Skins would have his rights for the year, but until he signs it the skins could rescind it. Once he signs it becomes an exclusive tag as Mattys earlier link showed, so that means he can only negotiate with the Redskins. The transition tag obviously has a different path.

metalskins · 02-07-2018, 08:56 AM

The Redskins could apply the tag and see what Cousins does, but that money counts against the salary cap, and I don't believe the Redskins would want to purposely handicap themselves. If there was no deal with Alex Smith, then I felt it was a strong possibility, but now that a deal has been agreed upon in principle, I don't even think there's a 20% chance of a tag and trade happening. However, I've been wrong once or twice in my life, so we'll see what happens. Personally, I'm just fine letting him walk and getting a 3rd rounder in 2019.

BaltimoreSkins · 02-07-2018, 08:41 AM

I don't think so as soon as they apply the FT assuming it is exclusive they have a hard deadline in July to which they can work out an extension. Basically he would be off the market and it doesn't matter the FT is binding so he either agrees to it or sits out he doesn't have to sign anything and there is nothing he can do about it.

skinsfaninok · 02-07-2018, 09:23 AM

God I CANT WAIT for this to be over

sdskinsfan2001 · 02-07-2018, 11:12 PM

When free agency opens, I want our team bringing in guys that will be year next year, not playing chicken with a FA/teams. Want more picks trade down.

NC_Skins · 02-08-2018, 12:10 AM

Why are we still talking about Kurt? Let's move on. He didn't want to sign here so we replaced his ass with somebody who did want to be here. Let him enjoy whatever franchise he goes to.

02-07-2018, 08:17 AM	#4
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,591	Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0 Ok, wasn't sure how that went down. __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

02-07-2018, 08:56 AM	#11
metalskins The Starter Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 1,464	Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0 The Redskins could apply the tag and see what Cousins does, but that money counts against the salary cap, and I don't believe the Redskins would want to purposely handicap themselves. If there was no deal with Alex Smith, then I felt it was a strong possibility, but now that a deal has been agreed upon in principle, I don't even think there's a 20% chance of a tag and trade happening. However, I've been wrong once or twice in my life, so we'll see what happens. Personally, I'm just fine letting him walk and getting a 3rd rounder in 2019. __________________ Reserved for a witty signature.

02-07-2018, 08:41 AM	#12
BaltimoreSkins Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Parkton, MD Posts: 5,889	Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0 I don't think so as soon as they apply the FT assuming it is exclusive they have a hard deadline in July to which they can work out an extension. Basically he would be off the market and it doesn't matter the FT is binding so he either agrees to it or sits out he doesn't have to sign anything and there is nothing he can do about it.

02-07-2018, 09:23 AM	#13
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0 God I CANT WAIT for this to be over __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

02-07-2018, 11:12 PM	#14
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 42 Posts: 20,850	Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0 When free agency opens, I want our team bringing in guys that will be year next year, not playing chicken with a FA/teams. Want more picks trade down. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

02-08-2018, 12:10 AM	#15
NC_Skins Gamebreaker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 14,738	Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0 Why are we still talking about Kurt? Let's move on. He didn't want to sign here so we replaced his ass with somebody who did want to be here. Let him enjoy whatever franchise he goes to. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

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