The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

[diehardskin2982]

I personally don't care about RG3. The Kirk hive's only response is that people hate Cousins because they loved Robert, that is stupid.

Most of you don't remember Kirk Cousins demanded a trade when he was drafted here. He never wanted to be here. You blame the team for botched negotiations, it may be that he never intended to be here long-term. He has gotten in total $43.8 million from the Redskins, but according to the Kirk-Hive, he hasn't been loved. B.S.

Now, people are saying they'll stop being fans of the team if he leaves... Why? Kirk has won nothing of relevance. He has been good between the 20's as a QB, he can move the offense, but that is about it. The Giants, a team in our division has him figured out, don't believe me..., check the record against. No one player is greater than the team. The team will be there long after he retires.

If he is going to move on, it is in the TEAMS best interest to control that move as much as possible. Get what's best for the team. You don't want to see that, then you're not a real fan of the team, period. Franchise and Trade, especially since teams are expressing overt interest in him as a free agent.

[WillH]

I still think they should Transition Tag him (if he won't sign a reasonable but legitimate offer first). Then, let him know that as he tests the market that they will be willing to match just about any offer. When he finds the right offer from a team he wants to go to and accepts it, match, but if he wants to leave, they can work with that team to negotiate a trade.

The two risks that exist are:

1. Being on the hook for 28mil next year (beats 34 mil).

2. Another team front loads a deal so that we can't match. Tyre are very few teams that could afford to do this. If I remember correctly, it really is just the Jets and Cleveland. I doubt he'd choose either of those situations over Washington.

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[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by WillH

I still think they should Transition Tag him (if he won't sign a reasonable but legitimate offer first). Then, let him know that as he tests the market that they will be willing to match just about any offer. When he finds the right offer from a team he wants to go to and accepts it, match, but if he wants to leave, they can work with that team to negotiate a trade.

The two risks that exist are:

1. Being on the hook for 28mil next year (beats 34 mil).

2. Another team front loads a deal so that we can't match. Tyre are very few teams that could afford to do this. If I remember correctly, it really is just the Jets and Cleveland. I doubt he'd choose either of those situations over Washington.

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I've had a bit of a change of heart on this one. Perhaps they will, but I don't think they should transition him.

1) No more 1 YR deal nonsense; I'm over it, we're over it, Jay is over it, Kirk is over it. Let's move on.

2) Cousins has said he wants to make up his own mind, and choose where he wants to go. Let's let him.

I do not want him here anymore if he doesn't want to be here. Let's publicly offer him a fair deal right at 5 YR - $28M/YR, and let him choose where he wants to go. Say to him we want to support you and build around you.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I've had a bit of a change of heart on this one. Perhaps they will, but I don't think they should transition him.

1) No more 1 YR deal nonsense; I'm over it, we're over it, Jay is over it, Kirk is over it. Let's move on.

2) Cousins has said he wants to make up his own mind, and choose where he wants to go. Let's let him.

I do not want him here anymore if he doesn't want to be here. Let's publicly offer him a fair deal right at 5 YR - $28M/YR, and let him choose where he wants to go. Say to him we want to support you and build around you.

If you did this right off the bat when we are first able to and Cousins says no and doesn't even counter offer....then its obvious, he doesn't want to be here. That's kinda why I would franchise him cause Im then convinced he would take less than the 34 mil franchise tag

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I've had a bit of a change of heart on this one. Perhaps they will, but I don't think they should transition him.

1) No more 1 YR deal nonsense; I'm over it, we're over it, Jay is over it, Kirk is over it. Let's move on.

2) Cousins has said he wants to make up his own mind, and choose where he wants to go. Let's let him.

I do not want him here anymore if he doesn't want to be here. Let's publicly offer him a fair deal right at 5 YR - $28M/YR, and let him choose where he wants to go. Say to him we want to support you and build around you.

28 million is just too much for Kirk. There has to be a hard line number. He doesn't deserve a 4 million a year pay raise.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

28 million is just too much for Kirk. There has to be a hard line number. He doesn't deserve a 4 million a year pay raise.

The market calls for 26M, that to me is a fair deal. If he says no to that, well then he can fuck off

[Skins4L]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The market calls for 26M, that to me is a fair deal. If he says no to that, well then he can fuck off

Very true though.

[MTK]

Yeah enough dicking around with tags.

Give him a strong offer right off the bat if you want to keep him.

Otherwise prepare to lose him.

[Schneed10]

Yeah I want my quarterback bought in. Either you want to lead this team, or you don't. If you don't, fine no hard feelings. But I need to know, and I'm moving on if you don't.

Here's a 5-year $25M per year offer with three full seasons guaranteed. Do you want to be a Redskin or not? Please respond by March 6.

That's it. Your leader either goes all in or he's not your leader.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I want my quarterback bought in. Either you want to lead this team, or you don't. If you don't, fine no hard feelings. But I need to know, and I'm moving on if you don't.

Here's a 5-year $25M per year offer with three full seasons guaranteed. Do you want to be a Redskin or not? Please respond by March 6.

That's it. Your leader either goes all in or he's not your leader.

Ditto.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I want my quarterback bought in. Either you want to lead this team, or you don't. If you don't, fine no hard feelings. But I need to know, and I'm moving on if you don't.

Here's a 5-year $25M per year offer with three full seasons guaranteed. Do you want to be a Redskin or not? Please respond by March 6.

That's it. Your leader either goes all in or he's not your leader.

I could get behind a solid offer like this one. $75M in guarantees is very hefty, indeed!

I think the deadline is a team need at this point because we need to be able put a decent QB room together with or without Kirk and we also need to know what our FA budget will be so we can move ahead with other FA signings. No tag!

[sdskinsfan2001]

If he dies, he dies (if he leaves, he leaves)

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

If he dies, he dies (if he leaves, he leaves)

One of the best movies of all time and the best rocky

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

One of the best movies of all time and the best rocky

I personally like 3 the best. 5 was so bad that it's comical to watch.

[Skins4L]

The way this team mishandled Kirk is disgusting. The football karma off the idiocy is at staggering levels.

This year draft is so poor for QBs too. None of guaranteed to develop. The kid baker sucks he reminds me of Mark Sanchez and Manziel rolled into one turd.