The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

[skinsfaninok]

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"I don't see special" Scot M on Kirk

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

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"I don't see special" Scot M on Kirk

Although I agree with Scot, Kirk is a good QB that needs the help of other really good players around him to win many games. The roster now, just isn't going to cut it

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[Ivar the Boneless]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Although I agree with Scot, Kirk is a good QB that needs the help of other really good players around him to win many games. The roster now, just isn't going to cut it

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The team is still way too deficient on both sides of the ball to be contenders, even with Kirk playing lights out on a consistent basis. The extra knock on him is that he isn't consistent. He needs a loaded team like Jacksonville and Oakland to really get to the postseason. Even when he was lighting it up with DJax and Garcon, the D and running game would let him down. Our WR corp shows only a tad of potential, and isn't that good. I would draft a WR in 2018 and 2019. At this point I wouldn't resign Doctson, unless he really shines next season. The sad thing is we really haven't advanced the roster all that much in the past 4 seasons.

[rocnrik]

What figure do you think Cousins could have been signed for years ago when he first started after RGIII didn't pan out? And even if we could have signed him then to a long term contract for reasonable money don't you think he would at some point wanted his contract re done. I along with most of you believe the FO dropped the ball on this whole mess HOWEVER I'm not convinced we would not be dealing with a hold out at this time..what do you guys think?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

What figure do you think Cousins could have been signed for years ago when he first started after RGIII didn't pan out? And even if we could have signed him then to a long term contract for reasonable money don't you think he would at some point wanted his contract re done. I along with most of you believe the FO dropped the ball on this whole mess HOWEVER I'm not convinced we would not be dealing with a hold out at this time..what do you guys think?

I guess that depends what your opinion of Kirk as a person is. I have seen nothing that leads me to believe he is "all about the money" and would go to the lengths to holdout because he believed that his recent extension is not paying him enough. Is he about the money somewhat? Yes, obviously. I think if we paid him fair market rate he would be happy over the lifetime of the contract. Besides, for a guy who preaches leadership and accountability, it would really look bad if he was complaining about unfair payment only a couple years after signing an extension. I think Kirk has tried to carefully cultivate an image of himself as a team player, and that would go against that.

[Whathappenedtorg3]

I think Mcloughan used a clever rhetorical trick in reframing the question from "can the Rs get a better starting QB on the street or in this super weak draft class?" to " Is Kirk Cousins special?"

There's what like 2 "special" QBs in the league?

Something about working for the Rs makes you unnecessarily political and douchey.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Whathappenedtorg3

I think Mcloughan used a clever rhetorical trick in reframing the question from "can the Rs get a better starting QB on the street or in this super weak draft class?" to " Is Kirk Cousins special?"

There's what like 2 "special" QBs in the league?

Something about working for the Rs makes you unnecessarily political and douchey.

The R's eh? You'll have to be more specific, not sure who you're referring to there.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by mooby

The R's eh? You'll have to be more specific, not sure who you're referring to there.

Pretty clear that torg doesn't know where the word "redskins" comes from, why it was picked for the team name, and how the name is used today. LOL.

[KI Skins Fan]

WillH, you are desperately needed to restore order on the Redskins Offseason Thread where several posters are going apeshit in emotion-packed rages against Dan Snyder and Smithers. Please get over there right away before somebody bursts an aneurysm.

[skinsfaninok]

Here we go again.

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[WillH]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Here we go again.

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Hmmm.... can't happen yet, but if there's already talk, I think it's a sign and trade yo

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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by WillH

Hmmm.... can't happen yet, but if there's already talk, I think it's a sign and trade yo

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That's what I'm guessing. I think a trade to the jets will probably happen

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[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

That's what I'm guessing. I think a trade to the jets will probably happen

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Not sure how it works but why would the Jets give up more than a six pack if Kirk can take $34 mil and then walk at the end of the season?

[WillH]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Not sure how it works but why would the Jets give up more than a six pack if Kirk can take $34 mil and then walk at the end of the season?

You can franchise, give permission to negotiate with other teams, and then work out a trade with that team.

Now that I'm thinking about it though, I can't see the advantage of deciding that now unless you can give permission now to start negotiating with offer teams.

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[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Not sure how it works but why would the Jets give up more than a six pack if Kirk can take $34 mil and then walk at the end of the season?

The NFL is a year to year business. You make the trade if your Broncos, Browns, or Jets because as the head coach, you could be fired at the end of the year. Results Matter. The second reason is exclusivity. If I am the Jets or Browns, how confident am I that Kirk will really consider my offer. If we have him for a year it's possible he will like it and decide to stay.