Government shutdown 2018

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I seriously don't understand the narrative that a wall would not make a difference. I can give examples from ancient times to modern day eastern European countries who have greatly reduced refugees with border walls. Can anyone cite an example of a wall that failed without a foreign invading army involved?

Or would anyone want to live next to a maximum security prison that had no physical walls and just video surveillance?

There are more than enough examples of working border walls throughout history. I am just interested in examples where a wall did not significantly reduce external intrusions into a country. (Again not talking about foreign army invasions)

Read this. It might make you look at the multi billion dollar wall differently.
http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...017-story.html

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Read this. It might make you look at the multi billion dollar wall differently.
http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...017-story.html

It is an ok article, and has several good points that can and should be done in addition to the wall. What it does not do is show any evidence of a wall in any time in history that failed to reduce the number of successful border crossings.

In dealing with border security you have multiple sides to the issue. The article deals with reducing incentives to cross the borders, and we can do more on that front. The wall deals with the physical trafficking across the border and we should address that side of the issue as well.