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Old 01-23-2018, 10:09 AM   #1
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This shutdown was a charade...but yet some will say this person won, that person won...folks no one really won. These typical "politics as usual" tactics are shameful...So if you like the swamp and politics as usual then you probably liked what the Dems did. Whether you like our President or hate him...I think its refreshing that we have an administration that is not doing the status quo, I enjoy them of resisting the false narratives in the media and actually approaching issues.



But the facts are facts...lotta things getting done and we seeing the benefits.


What benefits have you seen personally from Trump? They aren’t resisting false narratives. Russia actually did hack our election. How many of his “low level coffee boys” need to go down before you realize there is a “there” there and CNN did not fabricate the Russian “hoax”?
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What benefits have you seen personally from Trump? They aren’t resisting false narratives. Russia actually did hack our election. How many of his “low level coffee boys” need to go down before you realize there is a “there” there and CNN did not fabricate the Russian “hoax”?
List me the benefits Russia and the Russian Gov't have received due to the Trump administration.
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List me the benefits Russia and the Russian Gov't have received due to the Trump administration.


Russia doesn’t have a government. They have a thug dictator and his fellow oligarchs who pose as one. Anyway Can I just say shady business/real estate deals worth billions and be done? My daughter forgot her lunch and im in a rush.
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Russia doesn’t have a government. They have a thug dictator and his fellow oligarchs who pose as one. Anyway Can I just say shady business/real estate deals worth billions and be done? My daughter forgot her lunch and im in a rush.
LOL...ok Alex Jones...you keep chasing them windmills.
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LOL...ok Alex Jones...you keep chasing them windmills.


Are you saying the Russian government is legit? Lol
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List me the benefits Russia and the Russian Gov't have received due to the Trump administration.
Aren't talks in the works to let Exxon go drilling in the northern Russia arctic lands? I'm a little hazy on the details but I remember something about sanctions holding them up, but IIRC Trump/co. are/were trying to get rid of the sanctions?
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Aren't talks in the works to let Exxon go drilling in the northern Russia arctic lands? I'm a little hazy on the details but I remember something about sanctions holding them up, but IIRC Trump/co. are/were trying to get rid of the sanctions?
Trump denies Exxon permission to drill for oil in Russia - Apr. 21, 2017
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That's good enough for me. Thanks.
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That's good enough for me. Thanks.


CRedskinsRule is right and here is another article that's pretty good.



Russia oil sanctions impact on Exxon deal - Business Insider
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:38 PM   #10
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When you really pay attention to the facts the connections run so deep it becomes painfully obvious. But since the fake news bullshit has caught fire anything can simply be dismissed. Even if there is legit proof. His base wouldn’t mind if he gunned someone down on fifth avenue right? He is just barking at the moon but Mueller knows everything we do and more. We got another few weeks until it all comes out in the wash. But Trump knows that his base will believe him regardless of fake proof. The proof needs proof and that proof needs proof. He has them all primed with his fake news and witch hunt bologna. There is absolutely no doubt that the Russians wanted him elected. And there is no doubt he and his entire posse were all for it. One is a coffee boy. One he hardly knew. Is it really just coincidence that pretty much everyone in the posse has either lied about contacts with russia? No sanctions. Kushner has major ties. His whole family did. Trump was doing business with every Russian banker and has the balls to say he has no interests in Russia? The facts are all out there.
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When you really pay attention to the facts the connections run so deep it becomes painfully obvious. But since the fake news bullshit has caught fire anything can simply be dismissed. Even if there is legit proof. His base wouldn’t mind if he gunned someone down on fifth avenue right? He is just barking at the moon but Mueller knows everything we do and more. We got another few weeks until it all comes out in the wash. But Trump knows that his base will believe him regardless of fake proof. The proof needs proof and that proof needs proof. He has them all primed with his fake news and witch hunt bologna. There is absolutely no doubt that the Russians wanted him elected. And there is no doubt he and his entire posse were all for it. One is a coffee boy. One he hardly knew. Is it really just coincidence that pretty much everyone in the posse has either lied about contacts with russia? No sanctions. Kushner has major ties. His whole family did. Trump was doing business with every Russian banker and has the balls to say he has no interests in Russia? The facts are all out there.
When these probes reach their final resolution one side or both are going to implode. I think you are correct that at this point Mueller's probe is seen by Trump supporters as tainted beyond repair, I certainly do. Likewise those who hold your viewpoint of Trump would not accept it if the investigation somehow ended with no indictment of Trump or his inner circle.

No matter what outcome there likely will be serious consequences from the masses. I am talking about riots, and serious civil unrest.
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List me the benefits Russia and the Russian Gov't have received due to the Trump administration.
I don't know if these are benefits?


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I don't know if these are benefits?


Newest Additions to Our Trump-Russia Timeline
The struggle to find even a hint of softening of policy toward Russia is evidence enough...in fact the administration has actually made it extremely hard on Russia and their allies. Trump bombed Syria with Russian troops in the area, the administration recently sold anti tank weapon systems to the Ukraine, and the administration has pressured Iran repeatedly a Russian ally in the Middle East...

Sanctions have continued against Russia. The approach with Russia has been much stronger than the previous administration which had their ass handed to them repeatedly. In fact, the previous administration did vey little to stop the meddling in the 2016 elections.
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LOL, no trump has tried to make it easier.
Timeline of Trump's delays on Russia sanctions - ABC News

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ssia-sanctions


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...sanctions-veto


White House facing scrutiny for Russia sanctions delay - CNNPolitics
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Old 01-24-2018, 08:54 AM   #15
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Here is recent relevant facts for you published within the last day by Newsweek : What Did Putin Want From Trump And What Did He Actually Get?

They are based and reference experts from think tanks like the Brookings Inst and The Center for Strategic and International Studies in G-town.

Trying to woke you up this morning
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