The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

You lost me on your first sentence.

You’re saying something is highly likely to happen when there’s no history of it occurring.

What am I missing here.

Could it happen? Sure I guess. Highly likely though? Doubt it.

But we could franchise him and let him negotiate a deal with another team to receive compensation.

I don't think this is out of the question, there are other teams who would gladly guarantee 75-90 million for Cousins.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

But we could franchise him and let him negotiate a deal with another team to receive compensation.

I don't think this is out of the question, there are other teams who would gladly guarantee 75-90 million for Cousins.

see I don't really know how many though, I mean Jets and who else? Denver doesn't have that kind of money, Bills? Nah. Browns? Maybe but that is about it.

Kirk may leave for a lesser deal than expected

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

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see I don't really know how many though, I mean Jets and who else? Denver doesn't have that kind of money, Bills? Nah. Browns? Maybe but that is about it.

Kirk may leave for a lesser deal than expected

Take into consideration the other qb's that may be on the market, and a decent draft class, and it would seem like KC doesn't have as much leverage as he did last year.

In the Draft, Cleveland has 2 top 4 picks. NYG and Colts will either sell their pick or not likely take a qb at 2 and 3, so top qbs are likely to drop to Denver and NYJ at 5 and 6, who would have to be considered the top bidders for Kirk.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

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see I don't really know how many though, I mean Jets and who else? Denver doesn't have that kind of money, Bills? Nah. Browns? Maybe but that is about it.

Kirk may leave for a lesser deal than expected

It only takes 1.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

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see I don't really know how many though, I mean Jets and who else? Denver doesn't have that kind of money, Bills? Nah. Browns? Maybe but that is about it.

Kirk may leave for a lesser deal than expected

Jags Arizona Denver would be where I would start.

Jets, Bills, Browns are second tier...but all would be interested.

It wouldn’t be hard to clear cap space in Denver and elway is willing to do it.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

But we could franchise him and let him negotiate a deal with another team to receive compensation.

I don't think this is out of the question, there are other teams who would gladly guarantee 75-90 million for Cousins.

Why would KC want his new team to give up valuable picks for him?
If KC is tagged, he will play out the year and become a true unrestricted FA next year which is what he wants.
I don’t necessarily think he wants to leave but he does want the most money he can get and being and UFA is the best way to go about that.
34M next season is not a deterrent.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by jamf

Why would KC want his new team to give up valuable picks for him?
If KC is tagged, he will play out the year and become a true unrestricted FA next year which is what he wants.
I don’t necessarily think he wants to leave but he does want the most money he can get and being and UFA is the best way to go about that.
34M next season is not a deterrent.

Kirk has said for two years now that he's never gotten to pick his team in the NFL and that he would like to test the market. In the past couple of years, the skins tagged him exclusively and did not give him permission to seek offers from other teams.

In the tag and trade scenario, he'd be given that opportunity finally. Not entertaining offers would be in total contradiction to what he's been saying.

If Kirk did this he'd be a dick, how the hell would he spin this in popular opinion? Wouldn't other teams see this and think twice about signing him?

So he either finds the right team and we work out the best deal we can, he doesn't like the other options and decides to finally negotiate a long term, or be a dick and see how it plays out.

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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by jamf

Why would KC want his new team to give up valuable picks for him?
If KC is tagged, he will play out the year and become a true unrestricted FA next year which is what he wants.
I don’t necessarily think he wants to leave but he does want the most money he can get and being and UFA is the best way to go about that.
34M next season is not a deterrent.

Compensation is out of his hands...he will not turn down free agency bc of it.

Like I said before, the Skins need to handle this the right way.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by jamf

Why would KC want his new team to give up valuable picks for him?
If KC is tagged, he will play out the year and become a true unrestricted FA next year which is what he wants.
I don’t necessarily think he wants to leave but he does want the most money he can get and being and UFA is the best way to go about that.
34M next season is not a deterrent.

This is perhaps the best argument against the Skins tagging him again. This year, I think the Skins would be well-served by either signing Kirk to a LTD or moving on from him.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by jamf

Why would KC want his new team to give up valuable picks for him?
If KC is tagged, he will play out the year and become a true unrestricted FA next year which is what he wants.
I don’t necessarily think he wants to leave but he does want the most money he can get and being and UFA is the best way to go about that.
34M next season is not a deterrent.

Well, look at this, the Eagles don't have a 2nd and 3rd this year, although if they trade Foles away, they could possibly regain at least one of those picks. I don't think Kirk would really think about a team giving up picks for him as much as what type of contract they are offering.

I don't think Kirk necessarily wants to leave either, but he wants the most "guaranteed" money, because he equates guaranteed money with security. That's why he's OK with continuing to sign those guaranteed one year deals. He's trying to pioneer a change with how NFL contracts are structured.

I just feel, in my humble opinion, there is a good chance of a tag and trade, because as much as I think the Redskins do like Kirk Cousins, they've repeatedly been slammed in the media and around the league with how they've handled contract negotiations, and I would be shocked if they're able to get Kirk to agree to a LTD contract right away - in which another opinion on that is - if Kirk is going to sign a LTD with the Redskins, it should be done quickly. There is absolutely no reason to string it along until any deadlines. The longer you don't hear about an agreement, the more likely he walks out right or gets tagged. I just don't see why it would be logical to think the Redskins are just fine tagging him and paying him another big one year deal and not a LTD. I just think there is something already worked out with a trade partner who feels all they need is a quarterback to compete, and I honestly think it's Denver.