State of the Union tonight

[MTK]

2018 State of the Union - Fact Check

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

2018 State of the Union - Fact Check

I love the "needs context" tags. Lol

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I love the "needs context" tags. Lol

So ,knowing you are a trump supporter where or how is the NYT wrong with any or all of their evaluations?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

So ,knowing you are a trump supporter where or how is the NYT wrong with any or all of their evaluations?

Without going into the article point by point, when the fact checker says true but needs context that is the pure definition of media bias. Is the statement true, yes. You then want to write opeds on why the true statement doesnt jive with your world view that is also fine. But saying the economy gained x jobs doesnt need media spin in a "fact check" article, it's either true or false.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Without going into the article point by point, when the fact checker says true but needs context that is the pure definition of media bias. Is the statement true, yes. You then want to write opeds on why the true statement doesnt jive with your world view that is also fine. But saying the economy gained x jobs doesnt need media spin in a "fact check" article, it's either true or false.

So the explanation of each answer with facts that are either true or not is not good for you,you just want yes or no answers.Saying the economy gained x jobs could be a yes or no answer if credit for said gain was given to whom ever earned it,it should be explained for those whom might not understand the system being used to come up with that "Yes or No' answer.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

So the explanation of each answer with facts that are either true or not is not good for you,you just want yes or no answers.Saying the economy gained x jobs could be a yes or no answer if credit for said gain was given to whom ever earned it,it should be explained for those whom might not understand the system being used to come up with that "Yes or No' answer.

I am saying the fact check should be just that "just the facts, ma'am "

But we have a dumb electorate who craves being fed information in a fact check that belongs in the opinion portion. Are we going to fact check the fact checkers?

And yes on the economy for example a lot of the cause for the growth is opinion based. No Trump doesn't get all the credit and Obama deserves credit leaving office with a stable economy, but there is a whole lot more to it then 1 or two paragraphs in a fact check article.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I love the "needs context" tags. Lol

that's rich coming from the NY Times

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

2018 State of the Union - Fact Check

one other comment on this, I didn't even see that there was only one fact check of the democratic response, I'm assuming that means from the NYTimes viewpoint, Mr Kennedy didn't say anything that would warrant serious consideration. Nice.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

one other comment on this, I didn't even see that there was only one fact check of the democratic response, I'm assuming that means from the NYTimes viewpoint, Mr Kennedy didn't say anything that would warrant serious consideration. Nice.

or.....Mr Kennedy was more truthful with his statements.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

or.....Mr Kennedy was more truthful with his statements.

Nope. They would have put the statement of merit and said TRUE. He had one fact the NYTimes felt was worth noting.

[NC_Skins]

Hey guys, he had the most watched SOTU of all time.



@realDonaldTrump

Thank you for all of the nice compliments and reviews on the State of the Union speech. 45.6 million people watched, the highest number in history. @FoxNews beat every other Network, for the first time ever, with 11.7 million people tuning in. Delivered from the heart!





Oh wait....it wasn't.


President Obama: 48 million on 11 outlets in 2010
George W. Bush: 52 million on 8 outlets in 2002
Bill Clinton: 45.8 million on 4 outlets in 1994

“Trump’s initial SOTU, the third longest in history, is now also the least watched address in nearly a quarter of a century.”

[Giantone]

I'm shocked!!! Bigly!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Hey guys, he had the most watched SOTU of all time.







@realDonaldTrump



Thank you for all of the nice compliments and reviews on the State of the Union speech. 45.6 million people watched, the highest number in history. @FoxNews beat every other Network, for the first time ever, with 11.7 million people tuning in. Delivered from the heart!











Oh wait....it wasn't.





President Obama: 48 million on 11 outlets in 2010

George W. Bush: 52 million on 8 outlets in 2002

Bill Clinton: 45.8 million on 4 outlets in 1994



“Trump’s initial SOTU, the third longest in history, is now also the least watched address in nearly a quarter of a century.”

Numbers don’t lie, but Presidents do, over, and over, and over...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.bb2bdfce1379

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Nope. They would have put the statement of merit and said TRUE. He had one fact the NYTimes felt was worth noting.

Agreed, he had one fact that needed "context".

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

or.....Mr Kennedy was more truthful with his statements.

What, of any substance, did Kennedy say in his drooling rebuttal?

Only thing I got was, they want to tear down the wall if built, and have more sympathy for people wanting to enter the country illegally than the people already here.