Redskins trade for Alex Smith

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

We have plenty of cap and picks to keep building. Not sure where this rebuild talk is coming from.

I think I’ll just read your posts for the next couple days. Nearly everyone else is irrational. Emotionally on tilt. Save me from the crazies I can’t take it.

[SFREDSKIN]

Last thing I’m going to say Smith couldn’t do it in SF or KC (I like Alex and saw plenty of him in SF) Cousins is the better QB, I understand we needed a replacement, management got fleeced and way overpaid for him, especially at
Young age of 33. We better draft a young QB to groom, we are going to need it. I’m out.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Last thing I’m going to say Smith couldn’t do it in SF or KC (I like Alex and saw plenty of him in SF) Cousins is the better QB, I understand we needed a replacement, management got fleeced and way overpaid for him, especially at
Young age of 33. We better draft a young QB to groom, we are going to need it. I’m out.

Smith made the pro bowl, Cousins didn’t. Smith had 5 INTs and 4 fumbles, Cousins had 13 INTs and 13 fumbles. Smith is a big running threat, Cousins is a little one. Smith’s red zone performance is better. Reid and Gruden’s systems are nearly identical.

But yeah sure Cousins is better.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Last thing I’m going to say Smith couldn’t do it in SF or KC (I like Alex and saw plenty of him in SF) Cousins is the better QB, I understand we needed a replacement, management got fleeced and way overpaid for him, especially at
Young age of 33. We better draft a young QB to groom, we are going to need it. I’m out.

When it comes to crunch time, statistics would say that is a lie. Exhibit A, comparative data from the last three seasons. Smith is better in EVERY category except one. Not by a ton, but better nonetheless.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

When it comes to crunch time, statistics would say that is a lie. Exhibit A, comparative data from the last three seasons. Smith is better in EVERY category except one. Not by a ton, but better nonetheless.

Yet KC had more 4 quarter come backs over the last three years (7 to 5). looking exclusively at the 4th quarter is ignoring the other three quarters. They are pretty comparable over the last 5 years except Alex Smith has a better interception% and is a better runner. I wonder if Gruden is going to try to make AS fit his system or cater to his strength. Listened to an interesting interview with Andy Benoit (from MMQB) on Grant and Danny and he voiced that as a potential problem.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Yet KC had more 4 quarter come backs over the last three years (7 to 5). looking exclusively at the 4th quarter is ignoring the other three quarters. They are pretty comparable over the last 5 years except Alex Smith has a better interception% and is a better runner. I wonder if Gruden is going to try to make AS fit his system or cater to his strength. Listened to an interesting interview with Andy Benoit (from MMQB) on Grant and Danny and he voiced that as a potential problem.

There's not as much of an opportunity to be in situations where a comeback is needed to win when you play with a dominant defense. This stat is meaningless.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

So I have had 24 hours to let this marinate and I have gone through a range of emotions, first I was shocked, not that we got a new QB, because I think deep down we all knew Cousins didn't want to be here and wasn't coming back, I was more shocked because I didn't think Alex Smith was on our radar.

Then, I went to fear when I heard the initial reports were players and picks. I was relieved that it was just a 3rd round pick because as angry as people want to be, Smith's production is worth a 3rd round pick, there is no disputing that. Even at 33 years old.

I got angry when I found out it was Kendall Fuller who was involved because he was far and away our best defensive player to me from what I saw but at the end of the day he isn't Jalen Ramsey, or Xavier Rhodes, or even Josh Norman yet. (Could he get there? possibly but QB>>>>CB any day of the week.)

So once I woke up I started looking at it more and more, Alex Smith has gotten better and better every year, doesn't turn the ball over and one thing no one is mentioning, he beat both teams who are in the Super Bowl this year.

Before I can fully judge this, I want to see the team that is built around Smith, we do need a RB, need more from Doctson, and Reed does need to stay healthy but until I see the season unfold can't really say anything definitive. All I know is that at WORST case scenario Cousins vs. Smith is a wash, but difference is we will be able to get more pieces with Smith vs. Cousins at 30 million or whatever the hell he gets and doesn't want to be here.

Just remember before all of you jump off a cliff, Cousins DID NOT want to be here anymore. You can say we fucked it up, you can say we should have accepted his offer 3 years ago, the point is it is over and we can't go back.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

So I have had 24 hours to let this marinate and I have gone through a range of emotions, first I was shocked, not that we got a new QB, because I think deep down we all knew Cousins didn't want to be here and wasn't coming back, I was more shocked because I didn't think Alex Smith was on our radar.

Then, I went to fear when I heard the initial reports were players and picks. I was relieved that it was just a 3rd round pick because as angry as people want to be, Smith's production is worth a 3rd round pick, there is no disputing that. Even at 33 years old.

I got angry when I found out it was Kendall Fuller who was involved because he was far and away our best defensive player to me from what I saw but at the end of the day he isn't Jalen Ramsey, or Xavier Rhodes, or even Josh Norman yet. (Could he get there? possibly but QB>>>>CB any day of the week.)

So once I woke up I started looking at it more and more, Alex Smith has gotten better and better every year, doesn't turn the ball over and one thing no one is mentioning, he beat both teams who are in the Super Bowl this year.

Before I can fully judge this, I want to see the team that is built around Smith, we do need a RB, need more from Doctson, and Reed does need to stay healthy but until I see the season unfold can't really say anything definitive. All I know is that at WORST case scenario Cousins vs. Smith is a wash, but difference is we will be able to get more pieces with Smith vs. Cousins at 30 million or whatever the hell he gets and doesn't want to be here.

Just remember before all of you jump off a cliff, Cousins DID NOT want to be here anymore. You can say we fucked it up, you can say we should have accepted his offer 3 years ago, the point is it is over and we can't go back.

My point all long through this thread has been we were smart not to offer Cousins a big money long term deal because even though he can put up good stats, he has never had the capability to win when it matters (red zone and 4th quarter), and that fact by itself led me to believe he wouldn't ever take us deep in the playoffs.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

So I have had 24 hours to let this marinate and I have gone through a range of emotions, first I was shocked, not that we got a new QB, because I think deep down we all knew Cousins didn't want to be here and wasn't coming back, I was more shocked because I didn't think Alex Smith was on our radar.



Then, I went to fear when I heard the initial reports were players and picks. I was relieved that it was just a 3rd round pick because as angry as people want to be, Smith's production is worth a 3rd round pick, there is no disputing that. Even at 33 years old.



I got angry when I found out it was Kendall Fuller who was involved because he was far and away our best defensive player to me from what I saw but at the end of the day he isn't Jalen Ramsey, or Xavier Rhodes, or even Josh Norman yet. (Could he get there? possibly but QB>>>>CB any day of the week.)



So once I woke up I started looking at it more and more, Alex Smith has gotten better and better every year, doesn't turn the ball over and one thing no one is mentioning, he beat both teams who are in the Super Bowl this year.



Before I can fully judge this, I want to see the team that is built around Smith, we do need a RB, need more from Doctson, and Reed does need to stay healthy but until I see the season unfold can't really say anything definitive. All I know is that at WORST case scenario Cousins vs. Smith is a wash, but difference is we will be able to get more pieces with Smith vs. Cousins at 30 million or whatever the hell he gets and doesn't want to be here.



Just remember before all of you jump off a cliff, Cousins DID NOT want to be here anymore. You can say we fucked it up, you can say we should have accepted his offer 3 years ago, the point is it is over and we can't go back.

Well said

[sdskinsfan2001]

Cousins couldn't beat the Cowboys or Giants. Paying 28 million or whatever, to a qb who can't beat teams in your division is a very risky gamble and we avoided it.

Alex, beat the damn Cowboys.

Way more excited about free agency and draft now.