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Old 02-06-2018, 11:05 AM   #1
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Yes it will create more fumbles, but is wrong with that? The NFL played with the two feet down or equivalent possession rule since the league was created and nobody complained about it or said there are too many fumbles. Turnovers are a exciting game changing play, nothing wrong with it. No need to protect the offenses any more then they already do. There was over 1000 yards of offense in the superbowl and only one punt. That is not balanced.
It wasn't until they changed the rules to promote more passing and give the offense more advantage and reason to throw the ball more, it has changed the game in a bad way.
Plus it is a contradiction when you can catch a ball on the edge of the sideline, as the receiver then steps put of bounds and only have two feet down and it is a catch. But in the field of play Jessie James gets his left foot and right knee down with possession of the ball and he is ruled incomplete.
You cannot have it both ways. the ball has to survive the ground rule has to go.
On the bolded part, I do agree.

But on the underlined part I don't. If the receiver catches the ball going to the ground, he has to maintain control all the way, wether he falls in bounds or not doesn't change anything. (As the rule is written now).
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:59 AM   #2
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On the bolded part, I do agree.

But on the underlined part I don't. If the receiver catches the ball going to the ground, he has to maintain control all the way, wether he falls in bounds or not doesn't change anything. (As the rule is written now).
The maintain possession to the ground part is bad/awful rule that needs to go away.
That fairly recent (new) rule is one of the major problems that is causing too much controversy. It leaves too much interpretation to the refs and causing too many replays and delays in the game.
Back before this terrible rule, regardless of where you are in the field, if player catches a pass and posses the ball in a hand and gets both feet or a foot and knee/hip down in the ground, it is a catch.
If that happens in the end zone the whistle is immediately blown, play over = TD.
Jessie James play he broke the line of the end zone first and then dropped the ball. When he reached the ball over the line the play is over. It should have been a TD. Watch the replay and you will see it. He dropped if after it crossed, but the ref applied the "he has to maintain control past the ground rule" incorrectly. Because by rule the play officially ended when he reached the ball across the line.
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:38 PM   #3
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The maintain possession to the ground part is bad/awful rule that needs to go away.
That fairly recent (new) rule is one of the major problems that is causing too much controversy. It leaves too much interpretation to the refs and causing too many replays and delays in the game.
Back before this terrible rule, regardless of where you are in the field, if player catches a pass and posses the ball in a hand and gets both feet or a foot and knee/hip down in the ground, it is a catch.
If that happens in the end zone the whistle is immediately blown, play over = TD.
Jessie James play he broke the line of the end zone first and then dropped the ball. When he reached the ball over the line the play is over. It should have been a TD. Watch the replay and you will see it. He dropped if after it crossed, but the ref applied the "he has to maintain control past the ground rule" incorrectly. Because by rule the play officially ended when he reached the ball across the line.
I saw it. I agree it should have been a TD in the spirit of the game. I'm just saying by the current rule it was a good overturn.

The "play ends when ball brakes the plane" rule applies only once the player becomes a runner, he must complete the catch first. We can argue that in the spirit it should be a catch, and I may very well agree, but by the rule this was the correct call.
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