Redskins trade for Alex Smith

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

well . . . first . . . "its not about the money" . . . complete lie . . . thats all its about with him.

then, i want to be a redskin for life . . . he has said that . . . said he hopes to be here . . . told players he looked forward to playing with them next year . . . then doesn't even negotiate or talk to the team . . . he has zero clue how much the redskins would have been willing to offer . . . in negotiations the team should always start low . . .then you get a counter . . . that counter never occurred to see what they really would have paid him . . . had he, and they countered his counter with a fair deal and he didn't take it he would have lost credibility . . . so he didn't counter and all the fans see was the initial offer . . . which OF COURSE is going to be low as thats how negotiations work

First, show me where Kirk actually said: "It's not about the money". Not just a click-bait title to an article where he didn't actually say it. Listen to the interview in question.

Second, we know how much Cousins and his agent offered to play per year for the Skins in 2015: $19.5 mil. Allen and Snyder turned it down.

That convoluted mess you imagine contract negotiations between the Skins FO and Cousins to be.... where the onus is on Cousins... pure fantasy.

Here's an account of the negotiations in preseason 2017.

LINK

Seems to jibe with what else I've read, would love MTK, Scheed, others weigh on this story. TL-DR: Sure looks to me like the SKins FO lowballed Kirk again.

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

the truth would be . . . i can't stand ownership, front office, team, etc. and want to move onto another team that will pay me tons of money . . . i hate the way i was treated . . . etc. etc. etc. . . . but he never said anything close to that . . . no, all he ever said was i would love to be here . . . we are moving in the right direction and i look forward to playing her next year . . . all BULLSHIT

and another thing . . . he claims GOD told him to do this, to do that . . . that is BS too . . . he cannot be the uber perfect religious boy and then go tell lie after lie . . . it just doesn't work that way

So not trashing the team he's on, and negotiating with, even complimenting them, is "BULLSHIT"?

Lmao, Cousins took the high road, unlike Allen if you agree with the link I posted. Cousins should be complimented for that.

Again, when did Cousins lie? A player can want to be on a team while not wanting to play for less than market value.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

First, show me where Kirk actually said: "It's not about the money". Not just a click-bait title to an article where he didn't actually say it. Listen to the interview in question.

Second, we know how much Cousins and his agent offered to play per year for the Skins in 2015: $19.5 mil. Allen and Snyder turned it down.

That convoluted mess you imagine contract negotiations between the Skins FO and Cousins to be.... where the onus is on Cousins... pure fantasy.

Here's an account of the negotiations in preseason 2017.

LINK

Seems to jibe with what else I've read, would love MTK, Scheed, others weigh on this story. TL-DR: Sure looks to me like the SKins FO lowballed Kirk again.




So not trashing the team he's on, and negotiating with, even complimenting them, is "BULLSHIT"?

Lmao, Cousins took the high road, unlike Allen if you agree with the link I posted. Cousins should be complimented for that.

Again, when did Cousins lie? A player can want to be on a team while not wanting to play for less than market value.

You referenced the offer from back in the summer, where Bruce only offered $53M guaranteed and Cousins said nah, I will play on the tag.

I have no problem with Bruce starting the negotiations at that spot. If Cousins wanted to be a Redskin he would have countered. He never countered.

Airing that out in the media, with the statement that Bruce made, was probably tasteless. But approaching negotiations that way is exactly what I want my executive to do. And if the player doesn't even bother to counter? Definitely don't think he's the leader for me long term.

Cousins just wanted out. Chris Thompson said it - he sent mixed messages. Is that who you want leading your team? Mixed messages from your captain?

Onward. He wasn't the guy for us. We've got to accept that he didn't want it, no matter what Allen did.