The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Dan73

There is nothing official from the Skins on the trade yet is there?

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I would doubt it mattered in the legal sense if they did or not because KFuller confirmed he is the player to be traded and AS confirmed he is going to be starting for the Skins.

[Dan73]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I would doubt it mattered in the legal sense if they did or not because KFuller confirmed he is the player to be traded and AS confirmed he is going to be starting for the Skins.

I would still do and have a contract ready to offer exactly the same as was offered to Smith. Then have a trade worked out for March 14th.

Worse thing that happens is either he signs or wins a grievance.

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Dan73

I would still do and have a contract ready to offer exactly the same as was offered to Smith. Then have a trade worked out for March 14th.

Worse thing that happens is either he signs or wins a grievance.

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Those would be incredibly bad options.

1) If he files a grievance then the 34M would be against our cap until that is resolved. Basically a self inflicted cap penalty for this year. Several things would follow as a result of that:
a) we could not execute the trade for AS, so we would have no qb of note going into the offseason.
b) we could not use the FT on Zach Brown or any other player, so likely would lose at least one player we want to keep
c) if did try to get AS, then we would have zero cap space while the grievance proceeds.

2) I don't see where you think he would sign the AS deal, without a grievance. But even if he did, the relationship would be even worse than what ever it was last year, and that's not a qb you want on your team.

[Dan73]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Those would be incredibly bad options.

1) If he files a grievance then the 34M would be against our cap until that is resolved. Basically a self inflicted cap penalty for this year. Several things would follow as a result of that:
a) we could not execute the trade for AS, so we would have no qb of note going into the offseason.
b) we could not use the FT on Zach Brown or any other player, so likely would lose at least one player we want to keep
c) if did try to get AS, then we would have zero cap space while the grievance proceeds.

2) I don't see where you think he would sign the AS deal, without a grievance. But even if he did, the relationship would be even worse than what ever it was last year, and that's not a qb you want on your team.

I don't think he would sign an AS deal. But it shows a reasonable offer.

They can use it Feb 20 and do a trade or rescind it march 14th

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Dan73

I don't think he would sign an AS deal. But it shows a reasonable offer.

They can use it Feb 20 and do a trade or rescind it march 14th

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I don't think you get the point of the section I quoted earlier - it specifically states that's a violation:

It shall be deemed to be a violation of this provision if, while the tender is outstanding, a Club insists that such a player agree to a Player Contract at a compensation level during the upcoming season below that of the Required Tender amount.

By offering the FT tender the Skins would be making the legal declaration that they intend to have KC back on contract on the 1st game of the season AT the tender amount, unless the two sides mutually agree on a long term deal. Having a deal that KC won't sign on the table, and a contract offered to AS which would put us over the cap with the FT amount would seemingly be a no brainer for the grievance judge to find us in violation.

[Dan73]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't think you get the point of the section I quoted earlier - it specifically states that's a violation:

By offering the FT tender the Skins would be making the legal declaration that they intend to have KC back on contract on the 1st game of the season AT the tender amount, unless the two sides mutually agree on a long term deal. Having a deal that KC won't sign on the table, and a contract offered to AS which would put us over the cap with the FT amount would seemingly be a no brainer for the grievance judge to find us in violation.

They can structure the deal so that he is getting his tender offer this year.

Trust me if the Skins have it in place to get a second or higher than they will tag him. There is a reason you have lawyers.

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Dan73

They can structure the deal so that he is getting his tender offer this year.

Trust me if the Skins have it in place to get a second or higher than they will tag him. There is a reason you have lawyers.

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If they structure a deal that gives KC 34M this year, why would he go somewhere else, and why would he take it? He would sign the FT, refuse any less available LT deal, and be 100% free next year. Take the 34M, tell the world that hey, that's what the CBA has put in place, and I'm looking forward to FA next year. Meanwhile the Skins would have a QB who is clearly not playing for the team, a 34M cap hit and the entire team in disarray.

OR

They let KC go, be done with the drama, sign AS to a reasonable deal, and start building the team around him.

Your plan would have the Skins clutching at straws to get a 2nd round pick while risking serious Cap and Draft penalties if KC filed a grievance and won.
WHY RISK IT.