Parkland Shooting

[Dan73]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The first sentence looks at what caused a person to do an evil act, and can we reduce or rehabilitate those. The second sentence looks at an inanimate object that has been used to save thousands or tens of thousands of lives when held by people with good intent.

Yes, imo, the focus should be on looking at personal responibility, and getting help to those who need it, BEFORE, they have set in their hearts to do evil.

The Parkland shooting shows us again, the systems were in place to stop it, but the almighty government and the individual guard who were alerted and could have stopped it - failed. It's that simple and tragic. You can ban whatever guns you want, there will always be a way for a person intent on an evil act to accomplish it.

HYPOTHETICAL, suppose Nikolas, instead of using a gun, had plowed his car through the parking lot, would you be calling on an end to high schoolers being able to park on school property? Of course not, and driving kills far more people per year than gun violence. And it's not a protected right in the Bill of Rights.

First off cars aren't designed to take lives. They are not promoted as ways to deal with other people with whom you have conflict up to including the government.

When I was younger you bought a hunting rifle now you buy an assault rifle.

When cars are advertised as ways to deal with other people then make laws to reduce that happening.

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Dan73

First off cars aren't designed to take lives. They are not promoted as ways to deal with other people with whom you have conflict up to including the government.

When I was younger you bought a hunting rifle now you buy an assault rifle.

When cars are advertised as ways to deal with other people then make laws to reduce that happening.

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I have never seen a gun advertisement showing a young man of good intent walking into a school and shooting the occupants.

I have seen terrorists in NY London Germany and Paris use vehicles as weapons of destruction.

We see more deaths by cars then by guns every year.

All that said, add background checks and raise the age to 21 for non-military. It will be as illegal then to use it as it was when Nikolas went into that school. The laws on the books did not stop him. But preventive steps could have.

[Dan73]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I have never seen a gun advertisement showing a young man of good intent walking into a school and shooting the occupants.

I have seen terrorists in NY London Germany and Paris use vehicles as weapons of destruction.

We see more deaths by cars then by guns every year.

All that said, add background checks and raise the age to 21 for non-military. It will be as illegal then to use it as it was when Nikolas went into that school. The laws on the books did not stop him. But preventive steps could have.

Yes we have car accidents and there are laws to made to cut down on those. For instance cars have to have all sorts of safety features. And manufacturers can be held liable.

I have never seen fertilizer advertisements showing bomb as an option for it. But start buying a bunch and watch the government come checking.

And let's cut the crap that guns save lives. They do not perform CPR or perform surgery. They just wound or kill others.

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I have never seen a gun advertisement showing a young man of good intent walking into a school and shooting the occupants.

I have seen terrorists in NY London Germany and Paris use vehicles as weapons of destruction.

We see more deaths by cars then by guns every year.

All that said, add background checks and raise the age to 21 for non-military. It will be as illegal then to use it as it was when Nikolas went into that school. The laws on the books did not stop him. But preventive steps could have.

See I am against the 21 year rule .I am old but I still believe if I can fight for my country I should be allowed to do everything else ,have a drink,own a gun and rent a car.
I see other ways , to own you must have a license and you must have insurance and yes tax the hell out of ammo and the guns themselves. You must pass a test like you do for a car and finally a physical evaluation.