Redskins don't plan on third straight franchise tag for Kirk Cousins

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think from the Vikings' stand point, it is worth it if you feel this will get you over the playoffs hump.



And if you are in a win-now mode, you don't care what happens 3 or 4 years down the road when you cannot afford an elite defense, your other skills players become expensive, and you have an above average QB that cannot carry the team on his back.



But if this means potentially winning it all within the next yer or two, then I don't see why they wouldn't do it.

I agree. Like I said earlier, if you’re the Vikings you push all your chips to the middle of the table and go for it.

You don’t put the next couple years of golden opportunities in the hands of a discounted journeyman. Pay Kirk and take your best shot.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

I agree. Like I said earlier, if you’re the Vikings you push all your chips to the middle of the table and go for it.

You don’t put the next couple years of golden opportunities in the hands of a discounted journeyman. Pay Kirk and take your best shot.

I agree and I probably would if I were Minnesota. But is it enough?

Is Kirk that guy? If he goes to Minnesota we'll all get to find out. If he goes to the Jets, we won't. lol

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I agree and I probably would if I were Minnesota. But is it enough?

Is Kirk that guy? If he goes to Minnesota we'll all get to find out. If he goes to the Jets, we won't. lol

I want him to go to Minnesota and fail miserably.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I want him to go to Minnesota and fail miserably.

If he goes to the Vikings it will be a classic letdown free agency signing. Free agency doesn't work for the most part because you have some many variables...new city, new teammates, new coordinator, new scheme, massive contract and lofty expectations. Kirk just doesn't have the command and dominant personality like Manning or Brees does where he can walk on another team and start fast.

I also don't believe that the Vikings w/ Zimmer as the HC, and being a defense first team, is going to offer Cousins 30 million a year.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I agree and I probably would if I were Minnesota. But is it enough?



Is Kirk that guy? If he goes to Minnesota we'll all get to find out. If he goes to the Jets, we won't. lol

Who knows but we do know that Keenum wasn’t enough this year.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by MTK

Who knows but we do know that Keenum wasn’t enough this year.

He was damn close. If Cousins started for the Vikings against the Eagles the outcome would have been the same.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

Who knows but we do know that Keenum wasn’t enough this year.

True and great point.

But what I fear deep down is nothing is good enough to beat Philly.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

True and great point.

But what I fear deep down is nothing is good enough to beat Philly.

I really cannot even begin to give credit to philly. I just can't. I do not think they're that good. I think they were very lucky down the stretch and, sadly, very well coached. That's it. And with a season of film on them now I expect a drop off and I hope I'm right.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Meks

I really cannot even begin to give credit to philly. I just can't. I do not think they're that good. I think they were very lucky down the stretch and, sadly, very well coached. That's it. And with a season of film on them now I expect a drop off and I hope I'm right.

It's the front four that's so difficult. When Cox is healthy he's a game wrecker. If you can control the front 4 then the secondary can be exposed. That's just way easier said than done though.

But I share your hope. For me, the losses of Frank Reich and John DeFilippo have to mean something. I wonder if they can collectively coach as well without those two guys around.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Meks

I really cannot even begin to give credit to philly. I just can't. I do not think they're that good. I think they were very lucky down the stretch and, sadly, very well coached. That's it. And with a season of film on them now I expect a drop off and I hope I'm right.

To say that after 16 regular season games which they dominated and the playoffs which they concluded by dominating their AFC Super Bowl opponent from start to finish behind their backup QB that the Eagles were not legit is to ignore the facts and replace them with your emotions.

I believe that every Super Bowl winner is the best team that season. That's why they are called The Champions. Bill Parcells famously said, "You are what your record says you are" and I believe that wholeheartedly.

As for the future, I believe they have an elite starting QB, an outstanding GM, and a potentially great HC, so how bad could they possibly be? No, they'll be contenders in 2018. They will simply re-load and go back to work.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

To say that after 16 regular season games which they dominated and the playoffs which they concluded by dominating their AFC Super Bowl opponent from start to finish behind their backup QB that the Eagles were not legit is to ignore the facts and replace them with your emotions.



I believe that every Super Bowl winner is the best team that season. That's why they are called The Champions. Bill Parcells famously said, "You are what your record says you are" and I believe that wholeheartedly.



As for the future, I believe they have an elite starting QB, an outstanding GM, and a potentially great HC, so how bad could they possibly be? No, they'll be contenders in 2018. They will simply re-load and go back to work.

The main issue for them right now is they’re tight against the cap, but they still have a strong roster. They may drop off a little this year, it’s natural for a SB champ to come back down to earth a little, but they’re still the easy favorite in the division

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Meks

I really cannot even begin to give credit to philly. I just can't. I do not think they're that good. I think they were very lucky down the stretch and, sadly, very well coached. That's it. And with a season of film on them now I expect a drop off and I hope I'm right.

Name one Super Bowl team that has not been lucky at one time or another?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Name one Super Bowl team that has not been lucky at one time or another?

Of course there’s a luck element but you also have to be a good team, when was the last bad team that somehow lucked themselves into a SB win?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Meks

I really cannot even begin to give credit to philly. I just can't. I do not think they're that good. I think they were very lucky down the stretch and, sadly, very well coached. That's it. And with a season of film on them now I expect a drop off and I hope I'm right.

C'mon. I hate them as much as anyone but they had a great team. Great teams can overcome their injuries and the Eagles did exactly that. Plus their free agent signings were spot on. Give credit where credit is due.