Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

He can't win. The ravens and Seahawks worked him out.

The ravens were going to sign him till his girl friend posted a django unchained photo shop with the owner

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I've learned not to think "can't win" when talking about a civil trail with a jury and a lower burden of proof than a criminal trial. I don't think the NFL would want to take the risk of losing a collusion lawsuit. So, yes, he'll be signed by some team and receive a settlement with no blame attached from the NFL.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I've learned not to think "can't win" when talking about a civil trail with a jury and a lower burden of proof than a criminal trial. I don't think the NFL would want to take the risk of losing a collusion lawsuit. So, yes, he'll be signed by some team and receive a settlement with no blame attached from the NFL.

I'd say, even without the risk of losing the trial, it'd be a pretty smart thing to do from a PR standpoint, wouldn't it?
It would end the talk about this collusion thing (which I have absolutely no idea if it's true or not, and, I'll admit, not a lot of interest in, not being American...).
Or do you think there'd be more people mad that the original kneeler was back in the league?

EDIT: again, not being American, but aware of how sensitive this issue can be, I want to stress how unfamiliar and distant from this story I am.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I've learned not to think "can't win" when talking about a civil trail with a jury and a lower burden of proof than a criminal trial. I don't think the NFL would want to take the risk of losing a collusion lawsuit. So, yes, he'll be signed by some team and receive a settlement with no blame attached from the NFL.

It would have to be removed from state to federal court, where both sides can appeal nearly every issue.

My experience has been more directed verdicts and motions for summary judgement in federal court. Settlement talks should come well after all the motions are filed to see if the matter can legally even be presented to a jury.

You're right thought, can't is stupid to use but his chances would have to be less than 10% if they are even that.

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[MTK]

I think CK winning a collusion suit would be a real long shot

[Ruhskins]

Nick Foles gets a $2 million bonus for winning the Super Bowl in restructured deal.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/987426231489474560

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Nick Foles gets a $2 million bonus for winning the Super Bowl in restructured deal.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/987426231489474560

Good for him. I hope he gets to remain the starter. I think winning the Superbowl the way he did should keep him starter and serves not to rush the other guy back to soon. But in impatient world of the NFL I suspect that will not happen

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Good for him. I hope he gets to remain the starter. I think winning the Superbowl the way he did should keep him starter and serves not to rush the other guy back to soon. But in impatient world of the NFL I suspect that will not happen

I think Wentz will be the starter as soon as he is healthy. Keeping him under contract, gives the Iggles the ability to take their time in bringing back Wentz.

[KI Skins Fan]

Personally, I think the profusion of poor backup QB's league-wide permeates this issue with the odor of collusion, whether or not collusion can be proven in court. Certainly, the NFL would like to make this entire controversy go away, so I think they'll try to resolve their dispute with CK in some way.

Of course, it won't work. The NFL is in a no-win situation from a public relations standpoint. Whatever happens, some segment of the U.S. population is going to continue to be pissed off about it and that will adversely affect the NFL.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Personally, I think the profusion of poor backup QB's league-wide permeates this issue with the odor of collusion, whether or not collusion can be proven in court. Certainly, the NFL would like to make this entire controversy go away, so I think they'll try to resolve their dispute with CK in some way.

Of course, it won't work. The NFL is in a no-win situation from a public relations standpoint. Whatever happens, some segment of the U.S. population is going to continue to be pissed off about it and that will adversely affect the NFL.

Maybe if he's just a back up and doesn't do anything political, at some point most people will move on? Or do they like drama that bad? ^^

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[Schneed10]

What do we think is Johnathan Hankins's play at this point?

I could see him antsy to get himself signed before the draft because after the draft a few teams might bow out of the Hankins bidding process if they feel like they solved DT in the draft.

On the other hand, he could remain confident that coming out of the draft there will be at least one team who will feel dissatisfied with their DT situation and may be willing to pay more.

I'm not dying over trying to obtain him one way or the other, but he's one of the last quality free agents remaining, really it's him and Dez. Wondering what you guys would do in his shoes. Get with a team now before the draft or wait and hope a team comes crawling to you with a serious post-draft need?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

What do we think is Johnathan Hankins's play at this point?

I could see him antsy to get himself signed before the draft because after the draft a few teams might bow out of the Hankins bidding process if they feel like they solved DT in the draft.

On the other hand, he could remain confident that coming out of the draft there will be at least one team who will feel dissatisfied with their DT situation and may be willing to pay more.

I'm not dying over trying to obtain him one way or the other, but he's one of the last quality free agents remaining, really it's him and Dez. Wondering what you guys would do in his shoes. Get with a team now before the draft or wait and hope a team comes crawling to you with a serious post-draft need?

It seems like he and Dez will be waiting until after draft weekend, I think it's a wise decision for both to do so.Like you said Both are the best 2 FA left so the demand for them should increase after this week.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

What do we think is Johnathan Hankins's play at this point?

I could see him antsy to get himself signed before the draft because after the draft a few teams might bow out of the Hankins bidding process if they feel like they solved DT in the draft.

On the other hand, he could remain confident that coming out of the draft there will be at least one team who will feel dissatisfied with their DT situation and may be willing to pay more.

I'm not dying over trying to obtain him one way or the other, but he's one of the last quality free agents remaining, really it's him and Dez. Wondering what you guys would do in his shoes. Get with a team now before the draft or wait and hope a team comes crawling to you with a serious post-draft need?

That's a really good question.
I hope our FO is trying to answer it.

I'd tend to think/hope he'd be more antsy than confident, last year he was signed by the Colts on April 13th... it's already April 23rd, and this year really not many teams have invited him to a visit (us, Jets, he had a visit scheduled with the Lions but they signed Sylvester Williams just before... nobody else that I could find something about).

So really it's the Jets and us for now, I wouldn't be very confident if I were him. Now maybe his agent sees something that we don't but...

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

What do we think is Johnathan Hankins's play at this point?

I could see him antsy to get himself signed before the draft because after the draft a few teams might bow out of the Hankins bidding process if they feel like they solved DT in the draft.

On the other hand, he could remain confident that coming out of the draft there will be at least one team who will feel dissatisfied with their DT situation and may be willing to pay more.

I'm not dying over trying to obtain him one way or the other, but he's one of the last quality free agents remaining, really it's him and Dez. Wondering what you guys would do in his shoes. Get with a team now before the draft or wait and hope a team comes crawling to you with a serious post-draft need?

I think he overplayed his hand. This draft will have several DT's taken that will reduce demand. I was pretty surprised he didn't take whatever offer the Jets made him. I wonder if he is willing to forego camp and see if a team comes up with a need in preseason.

I think he would be extremely lucky to get anything close to 8M per year between post draft and the start of preseason. But I do think if he accepted 5-6M for a one year deal that would get him signed.

[MTK]

I think teams are locked into draft mode at this point, Hankins and Bryant will have to wait

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

I think teams are locked into draft mode at this point, Hankins and Bryant will have to wait

It's a risk, for both team and player. For a team who needs a DT, you hope you can get a good one in the draft, but sometimes they're just not there when your pick comes up.

And for Hankins, he's had visits with the Skins, Jets, and Lions. After the Lions got Sylvester Williams I'm not even sure they're still in the Hankins market.

What if they all get a DT?

If you're Hankins do you call the Skins or Jets up now and say listen I'll take your one year $4M offer, or whatever they had on the table? Or do you wait, knowing it could mean somebody pays you a ton after the draft, or that you might have to take one year for $2M?

Not an easy call. If you're Hankins's agent you can't afford to let teams sit in draft mode if you think you need to make your move now.