Draft grades

[Chico23231]

https://player.fm/series/cooley-and-...ley-kevin-hr-2

Cooley's Safety Troy Apke Film review.

The Good News: he can contribute to special teams

The Bad News: He is a terrible safety who doesn't play his position very well. Tackling issues at safety but those issues don't appear on Special Teams. He thinks too much at the safety position...which is bad bad news when your doing it on the college level already and its gonna get worse at the NFL level.

Cooley wouldn't say it, but Kevin did...this was a big time reach. Cooley said this was strictly a combine pick where his forty numbers and his vert got him drafted 2 rounds too high. Cooley said his tape at safety is absolutely not a 4th round grade.

Do you reach for a player with only special team value...and not kicking or returning the ball....but tackling a ball carrier?

The answer is no. bad pick

Tim Settle pick makes up for this garbage though...so not too mad.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://player.fm/series/cooley-and-...ley-kevin-hr-2

Cooley's Safety Troy Apke Film review.

The Good News: he can contribute to special teams

The Bad News: He is a terrible safety who doesn't play his position very well. Tackling issues at safety but those issues don't appear on Special Teams. He thinks too much at the safety position...which is bad bad news when your doing it on the college level already and its gonna get worse at the NFL level.

Cooley wouldn't say it, but Kevin did...this was a big time reach. Cooley said this was strictly a combine pick where his forty numbers and his vert got him drafted 2 rounds too high. Cooley said his tape at safety is absolutely not a 4th round grade.

Do you reach for a player with only special team value...and not kicking or returning the ball....but tackling a ball carrier?

The answer is no. bad pick

Tim Settle pick makes up for this garbage though...so not too mad.

John Keim and few other analysts emphasized this pick is purely based on Apke's athleticism. We have good DB coach in Gray, I suppose Redskins believe Gray can coach him up. Apke would become a steal if Apke is able to learn well.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

John Keim and few other analysts emphasized this pick is purely based on Apke's athleticism. We have good DB coach in Gray, I suppose Redskins believe Gray can coach him up. Apke would become a steal if Apke is able to learn well.

If anybody can coach him up is Gray....I just think you take those type of players in the 6th round, not 4th. Im gonna go back and look who was there...but there were better BPA.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If anybody can coach him up is Gray....I just think you take those type of players in the 6th round, not 4th. Im gonna go back and look who was there...but there were better BPA.

Exactly! If he is not instinctive, and thinks too much at the college level, then the NFL is going to be too fast mentally for him.

With that athleticism, he only started his senior year.

Probably will be a bad pick, a reach.

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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Exactly! If he is not instinctive, and thinks too much at the college level, then the NFL is going to be too fast mentally for him.

With that athleticism, he only started his senior year.

Probably will be a bad pick, a reach.

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Going back and looking...There were much better prospects at CB, Safety, and WR. Also, could have gotten Sweat...DE the Eagles stole. He's gonna be a beast.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If anybody can coach him up is Gray....I just think you take those type of players in the 6th round, not 4th. Im gonna go back and look who was there...but there were better BPA.

Keep in mind that there were 60 picks until our next pick. If Gray, or a college scout was super high on this guy, they may have felt he wouldn't make it 60 more picks. I tend to think this pick is one that somebody in the decision tree stood on the table for(figuratively) and said he was worth the risk.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://player.fm/series/cooley-and-...ley-kevin-hr-2

Cooley's Safety Troy Apke Film review.

The Good News: he can contribute to special teams

The Bad News: He is a terrible safety who doesn't play his position very well. Tackling issues at safety but those issues don't appear on Special Teams. He thinks too much at the safety position...which is bad bad news when your doing it on the college level already and its gonna get worse at the NFL level.

Cooley wouldn't say it, but Kevin did...this was a big time reach. Cooley said this was strictly a combine pick where his forty numbers and his vert got him drafted 2 rounds too high. Cooley said his tape at safety is absolutely not a 4th round grade.

Do you reach for a player with only special team value...and not kicking or returning the ball....but tackling a ball carrier?

The answer is no. bad pick

Tim Settle pick makes up for this garbage though...so not too mad.

He was versatile and switched as the coaching staff needed him to at Penn State. I think he's a guy you give to coach Gray, and let him figure out what to do with him.

Since he looks to be a special teams ace, you have the time to turn him into a valuable piece on the defense.

[redskinjim]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

He was versatile and switched as the coaching staff needed him to at Penn State. I think he's a guy you give to coach Gray, and let him figure out what to do with him.

Since he looks to be a special teams ace, you have the time to turn him into a valuable piece on the defense.

he will get better he has the speed reed douty jr

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://player.fm/series/cooley-and-...ley-kevin-hr-2

Cooley's Safety Troy Apke Film review.

The Good News: he can contribute to special teams

The Bad News: He is a terrible safety who doesn't play his position very well. Tackling issues at safety but those issues don't appear on Special Teams. He thinks too much at the safety position...which is bad bad news when your doing it on the college level already and its gonna get worse at the NFL level.

Cooley wouldn't say it, but Kevin did...this was a big time reach. Cooley said this was strictly a combine pick where his forty numbers and his vert got him drafted 2 rounds too high. Cooley said his tape at safety is absolutely not a 4th round grade.

Do you reach for a player with only special team value...and not kicking or returning the ball....but tackling a ball carrier?

The answer is no. bad pick

Tim Settle pick makes up for this garbage though...so not too mad.

Mmmh, Cooley began his breakdown with "uncomfortable in the back pedal"... not a good thing for a safety... "below just a guy at safety right now"...

One thing though, he initially was a receiver, he switched to DB in college, so maybe he still has things to learn at this position and really could get coached up.

Let's hope they did see something others didn't... and if it doesn't pan out, hey they missed on a 4th rounder in a draft that began with us finally drafting a solid NT, getting a 3rd rounder back, drafting a promising RB in the 2nd and apparently a potential steal swing tackle in the 3rd, and then founding another good NT in the 5th round... nothing to get really crazy about.