ALEX SMITH and moving forward.

[skinsfaninok]

Just a quick reminder..

Alex Smith has made the playoffs 6 of the last 7 years... Once again let that sink in.

Good day all

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Just a quick reminder..

Alex Smith has made the playoffs 6 of the last 7 years... Once again let that sink in.

Good day all

This is his best stat of all.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Just a quick reminder..

Alex Smith has made the playoffs 6 of the last 7 years... Once again let that sink in.

Good day all

This would be a fantastic point, if he wasn't dependent on 44 other players also making contributions on game day to get the W.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by mooby

This would be a fantastic point, if he wasn't dependent on 44 other players also making contributions on game day to get the W.

I agree.
In a year when a second string QB that some teams gave up on wins a Super Bowl/MVP over one of the best ever QB's, it is time to stop under-valueing position players and team.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

This would be a fantastic point, if he wasn't dependent on 44 other players also making contributions on game day to get the W.

But it still points to AS. He has had different coaches, different surrounding players, different schemes. And still he has led his teams to playoff appearances. That reflects on his leadership, ability as a passer, and intangibles like game awareness and selflessnes.

Obviously only time will tell, but i am real high on AS directing Grudens offense.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

But it still points to AS. He has had different coaches, different surrounding players, different schemes. And still he has led his teams to playoff appearances. That reflects on his leadership, ability as a passer, and intangibles like game awareness and selflessnes.

Obviously only time will tell, but i am real high on AS directing Grudens offense.

I agree. And dependent on 44 other players? Well, the only QB I've seen that has been able to throw a TD pass to himself was Marcus Mariota in the playoffs - even Brady couldn't do that lol!

And I hope Smith IS dependent on 44 other players. That means 44 other players are stepping up to get the W. If it's all on Alex Smith, then that means the rest of the team sucks.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

But it still points to AS. He has had different coaches, different surrounding players, different schemes. And still he has led his teams to playoff appearances. That reflects on his leadership, ability as a passer, and intangibles like game awareness and selflessnes.

Obviously only time will tell, but i am real high on AS directing Grudens offense.

If you want to put a number on it, at best a qb can be responsible for 33% of his team's success on gameday, because defense and special teams still have to play adequately to get the W. And while you make a good point about the success he's had, keep in mind he's only played for 2 teams, and 1 of those teams he had the same head coach with (Reid) for 5 seasons. I'm sure he's had turnover at coordinator/lower rank coaches, but there's still something to be said for consistency at HC.

Also we can't brag about his playoff appearances because while he's done a good job of getting the Chiefs there, it's not like they've done anything once they got in.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

If you want to put a number on it, at best a qb can be responsible for 33% of his team's success on gameday, because defense and special teams still have to play adequately to get the W. And while you make a good point about the success he's had, keep in mind he's only played for 2 teams, and 1 of those teams he had the same head coach with (Reid) for 5 seasons. I'm sure he's had turnover at coordinator/lower rank coaches, but there's still something to be said for consistency at HC.

Also we can't brag about his playoff appearances because while he's done a good job of getting the Chiefs there, it's not like they've done anything once they got in.

So a qb who checks down on 3rd down, throws redzone interceptions, or has a fumbling tendency can only be 1/3 at fault? That is a bit flawed, a reverse example is a cb who consistently drops picks. The fact that the CB drops an interception and thus doesn't end a drive weighs more on the flow of a game then just 33%.

Likewise a qb who doesnt turnover the ball and put the defense in a bad position, or converts 3rd and medium with a regular consistency thus keeping special teams in good field position is far more valuable then 33%. And that's the change we are hoping to get with AS.