Redskins Offseason Thread

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Number44

Richmond Redskins? They would lose more than just the Maryland fans. They'd lose 80% of the fan base. Baltimore is much closer to DC than Richmond. Such a move would make no sense.

80% of the Redskins fan base does not live in Maryland.

[Number44]

Originally Posted by metalskins

80% of the Redskins fan base does not live in Maryland.

Never said they did. It is 110 miles from DC to Richmond. Who is driving to Richmond from NW DC? Reston? Fairfax? Moving the Redskins to Richmond is frankly absurd. 80% is a low estimate.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Number44

Never said they did. It is 110 miles from DC to Richmond. Who is driving to Richmond from NW DC? Reston? Fairfax? Moving the Redskins to Richmond is frankly absurd. 80% is a low estimate.

Who cares? What about those in southern VA who are huge Redskins fans who has to travel all the way up to Fed-Ex?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Who cares? What about those in southern VA who are huge Redskins fans who has to travel all the way up to Fed-Ex?

That's what I was thinking. I tried to find stats on where most skins fans travel from for games, but google didnt know the answer

The one thing google did find is that Richmond is losing money on the Skins training camp, so if that is the case then they aren't going to be looking to help with a full stadium issue.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

That's what I was thinking. I tried to find stats on where most skins fans travel from for games, but google didnt know the answer

The one thing google did find is that Richmond is losing money on the Skins training camp, so if that is the case then they aren't going to be looking to help with a full stadium issue.

Naw...wont impact the decision. You have to remember, the folks who run the City are incompetent and there are decades of facts to support that one ruling premise. But this will not impact the Stadium decision...not one bit. Its apple and oranges, training camp vs Stadium. In fact it may have been the governors strategy to take a big lose on the TC deal in order to build a relationship towards landing a Stadium deal.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Naw...wont impact the decision. You have to remember, the folks who run the City are incompetent and there are decades of facts to support that one ruling premise. But this will not impact the Stadium decision...not one bit. Its apple and oranges, training camp vs Stadium. In fact it may have been the governors strategy to take a big lose on the TC deal in order to build a relationship towards landing a Stadium deal.

The articles went more into it, but the guy who signed the TC deal is gone, and the city is pushing the Skins to pay a 750,000 / year portion the city is responsible, and may not renew the TC lease.

Not a single soul in Richmond seems to be pleased with the Redskins training-camp deal these days, and no wonder: The city might soon be on the hook for $750,000 a year to pay off the cost of building the facility. That’s on top of the $500,000 the city is supposed to pay the team for practicing in town. At the same time, the hoped-for ancillary business for food vendors, hotels, and the like has fallen far short of expectations.

I don't know whether it will affect their decision or not, but it would need to be addressed I am sure.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The articles went more into it, but the guy who signed the TC deal is gone, and the city is pushing the Skins to pay a 750,000 / year portion the city is responsible, and may not renew the TC lease.


I don't know whether it will affect their decision or not, but it would need to be addressed I am sure.

Trump woulda look at this, tweeted "bad deal" and woulda pulled out Stormy-style day one in office.

Richmond city is run by generally incompetent folks...but hey glad the Skins on home turf couple weeks a year.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Who cares? What about those in southern VA who are huge Redskins fans who has to travel all the way up to Fed-Ex?

Fed Ex was a a few miles from RFK the same place those same fans have always traveled to. The ticket buying fans have always known they would have to travel to a Redskin game. Now before everyone starts talking "New Stadium" you need to think PSL
For Met Life Stadium Giants and Jets....
"The one-time cost for the right to purchase season tickets ranges from $1,000 to $20,000 per seat, with more than half of the seats at least $5,000. The PSL does not include the price of the tickets.Jul 17, 2008"

I will tell you from experience these will wipe out many old time and long time ticket holders and bring in the corporate ticket people .If you think the game day experience cost was high before it will go through the roof now!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Fed Ex was a a few miles from RFK the same place those same fans have always traveled to. The ticket buying fans have always known they would have to travel to a Redskin game. Now before everyone starts talking "New Stadium" you need to think PSL
For Met Life Stadium Giants and Jets....
"The one-time cost for the right to purchase season tickets ranges from $1,000 to $20,000 per seat, with more than half of the seats at least $5,000. The PSL does not include the price of the tickets.Jul 17, 2008"

I will tell you from experience these will wipe out many old time and long time ticket holders and bring in the corporate ticket people .If you think the game day experience cost was high before it will go through the roof now!

I don't have season tickets, but I agree with your PSL point. It's going to kill those who have had tickets for generations

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't have season tickets, but I agree with your PSL point. It's going to kill those who have had tickets for generations

Are we sure that simply opening a new stadium will suddenly create a market of people ready to spend a boatload of money to buy season tickets that they struggle to sell right now ?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Are we sure that simply opening a new stadium will suddenly create a market of people ready to spend a boatload of money to buy season tickets that they struggle to sell right now ?

When I was working(retired now)there were a few people at work that had season Redskin tickets .What they would do is buy them then sell off what they didn't want and would make enough to cover their total cost so they essentially would get their seats for free. That won't happen in a new stadium .The new owners of those seats will be companies that can write off the deduction(for now)

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Are we sure that simply opening a new stadium will suddenly create a market of people ready to spend a boatload of money to buy season tickets that they struggle to sell right now ?

It happened in NY, and I believe in Dallas too. In NY people paid PSL's, only to find that their seats were double booked for the NYG vs NYJets game. I don't know how that was eventually resolved, but seat licenses are a huge part of a new stadium revenue plan, and guys that have been putting together 6K a year for seats are not going to suddenly have the 22-25K minimum that PSLs will be.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Fed Ex was a a few miles from RFK the same place those same fans have always traveled to. The ticket buying fans have always known they would have to travel to a Redskin game. Now before everyone starts talking "New Stadium" you need to think PSL
For Met Life Stadium Giants and Jets....
"The one-time cost for the right to purchase season tickets ranges from $1,000 to $20,000 per seat, with more than half of the seats at least $5,000. The PSL does not include the price of the tickets.Jul 17, 2008"

I will tell you from experience these will wipe out many old time and long time ticket holders and bring in the corporate ticket people .If you think the game day experience cost was high before it will go through the roof now!

I remember a few years ago, the Redskins called me offering season tickets. Provided, they were probably seats next to a pole blocking the view and next to a trash can (I'm kidding but probably not great seats), but the prices were not too terrible. At the same time, I couldn't justify the amount of travel I'd have to do that often, plus having to get a hotel room each time I went - just couldn't swing that. With the Panthers, I can very easy make that day trip, but, it's the Panthers, not the Redskins! Although I do try to go to the Panthers games when they're hosting the Redskins.

But anyway, you do make good points. I think my only thinking is that there are a lot of Redskins fans covering all of VA, not just the D.C. DMV area. There's still a huge following down here in Greensboro, NC, even though it's technically now Panther territory. I think whatever season ticket holders you may lose up around the DMV, you could replace those faces.