When is Enough ,Enough?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by MTK

McConnell has said “one of my proudest moments” was looking Obama in the eye and telling him he would block his Supreme Court nominee.



Straight up highway robbery by the turtle, disgusting

Speaking of disgusting...............


https://thinkprogress.org/trump-just...-4ba95e7ce0be/

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Speaking of disgusting...............


https://thinkprogress.org/trump-just...-4ba95e7ce0be/

I saw that too. Personally, I have no idea if this is some quid-pro-quo deal or not but if it is I hope Mueller's investigation wraps it up before the next Justice is confirmed. I fully expect it to be in line with Trump's nominating the worst possible guy/gal for critical positions. Still, even if there are too many "incidental" coincidences I don't expect anything to come of it. We are looking at a conservative SC for the next 30-40 years imo.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

I saw that too. Personally, I have no idea if this is some quid-pro-quo deal or not but if it is I hope Mueller's investigation wraps it up before the next Justice is confirmed. I fully expect it to be in line with Trump's nominating the worst possible guy/gal for critical positions. Still, even if there are too many "incidental" coincidences I don't expect anything to come of it. We are looking at a conservative SC for the next 30-40 years imo.

Yes more conspiracy theories. I’m sure it’s true.

Mitch told your party, obama, and you the voter you would live to regret this and you would regret it sooner than you think.

Your party should have never change the rules.

Dems need to own it now. And they need to explain it to you and all the Democratic voters...they owe you that. Unless somehow you agreed with basic stupidity of the move. The question now is, why the hell is the same democrats in power of the party?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

I saw that too. Personally, I have no idea if this is some quid-pro-quo deal or not but if it is I hope Mueller's investigation wraps it up before the next Justice is confirmed. I fully expect it to be in line with Trump's nominating the worst possible guy/gal for critical positions. Still, even if there are too many "incidental" coincidences I don't expect anything to come of it. We are looking at a conservative SC for the next 30-40 years imo.

Yup and the trumplings will march right along with it as long as it takes down the country the trump cult is happy.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

I saw that too. Personally, I have no idea if this is some quid-pro-quo deal or not but if it is I hope Mueller's investigation wraps it up before the next Justice is confirmed. I fully expect it to be in line with Trump's nominating the worst possible guy/gal for critical positions. Still, even if there are too many "incidental" coincidences I don't expect anything to come of it. We are looking at a conservative SC for the next 30-40 years imo.

Originally Posted by Giantone

Yup and the trumplings will march right along with it as long as it takes down the country the trump cult is happy.

Ok. I have read that article several times and still cannot make the conspiracy connection that you two seem to see.

If i understand right Kennedy's son would be in a huge position to damage Trump due to his work at DB on Trump's dealings. And clearly if Kennedy's son had knowledge of damaging evidence I think it is reasonable to think he would let his father know not to Trust Trump. If Kennedy was told by his son not to trust Trump, I doubt Kennedy would resign, instead staying on the bench adjudicate any Mueller rulings. I guess maybe you could see him stepping down so he would not have to recuse himself thus opening Mueller rulings subject to a potential 4-4 tie. But retiring and allowing Trump to select his successor seems like a draconian way to avoid that outcome.

G1, progressives and socialists are the ones leading this country down a fate like the old USSR and every other economy that has taken up socialism as their banner.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Ok. I have read that article several times and still cannot make the conspiracy connection that you two seem to see.

If i understand right Kennedy's son would be in a huge position to damage Trump due to his work at DB on Trump's dealings. And clearly if Kennedy's son had knowledge of damaging evidence I think it is reasonable to think he would let his father know not to Trust Trump. If Kennedy was told by his son not to trust Trump, I doubt Kennedy would resign, instead staying on the bench adjudicate any Mueller rulings. I guess maybe you could see him stepping down so he would not have to recuse himself thus opening Mueller rulings subject to a potential 4-4 tie. But retiring and allowing Trump to select his successor seems like a draconian way to avoid that outcome.

G1, progressives and socialists are the ones leading this country down a fate like the old USSR and every other economy that has taken up socialism as their banner.

.........like I said the cult is happy, fuck the country.

[CRedskinsRule]

Fairly dismissive comment. Not very useful in a forum about discussions.

But to try a civil response.

I like the general direction of the country under trump. I wish that there was a less abrasive social environment, but in a free speech democracy you should not want or expect group think.
I wish that, rather then each side demonizing and ascribing bad intent to the other, that both sides would look for the rational parts of the other sides positions and work toward a solution that satisfies the substantial majority(70-80%). There are some people on both sides that cant easily be satisfied, and there are some on both sides that should NOT be accomodated, but everyone should have the right to openly discuss their strongly held beliefs. Discussion does not mean physical violence and those on either side who bring violence into civil discourse should be arrested.

Originally Posted by Giantone

.........like I said the cult is happy, fuck the country.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Fairly dismissive comment. Not very useful in a forum about discussions.

But to try a civil response.

I like the general direction of the country under trump. I wish that there was a less abrasive social environment, but in a free speech democracy you should not want or expect group think.
I wish that, rather then each side demonizing and ascribing bad intent to the other, that both sides would look for the rational parts of the other sides positions and work toward a solution that satisfies the substantial majority(70-80%). There are some people on both sides that cant easily be satisfied, and there are some on both sides that should NOT be accomodated, but everyone should have the right to openly discuss their strongly held beliefs. Discussion does not mean physical violence and those on either side who bring violence into civil discourse should be arrested.

LOL, civil ? You're the one talking "violence".Trump campaigned on violence and now the right is not taking the credit for what they started,Do we really need to post the trump campaign video's again tell the crowed he would pay they legal bills for beating the crap out of protesters???Or the video's of his hate on the "FREE PRESS" or maybe his hate on Hillary and a GOLD STAR FAMILY? . You want the left to do what the right won't do and you're
upset becuase they won't ,you're a hypocrite.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

.........like I said the cult is happy, fuck the country.

This quote really stuck in my craw.

Here is a chart of Trump's approval rating from HuffPost:
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com...p-job-approval

My point isn't that the polls have him at a favorable rating - they don't, BUT the last combined polling showed him at around 43% and generally climbing. So in your mind 43% of the country is a cult?

And that 43% is with msm and social media constantly posting negative stories/russia russia russia crap. Media get trumped. If his personality were less negative he likely would have an even higher number. There is a lot of support for his policies, though liberal zombies will never admit it.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This quote really stuck in my craw.
.

..........it's the truth.


.................the trump cult doesn't care about the country .

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Ok. I have read that article several times and still cannot make the conspiracy connection that you two seem to see.



G1, progressives and socialists are the ones leading this country down a fate like the old USSR and every other economy that has taken up socialism as their banner.

Right , not the president/dictator who is single handedly bringing fascism to the United States. I find funny your complaint about the "old USSR" considering who elected trump.I thought the trumplings love putin.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Right , not the president/dictator who is single handedly bringing fascism to the United States. I find funny your complaint about the "old USSR" considering who elected trump.I thought the trumplings love putin.

Dude your hyperbole is level 10 the last couple thread pages. U can tell Trump had a good week based on G1 rants.



http://thehill.com/homenews/media/39...ll-do-anything

Looks like some good ole in-fighting right before the midterms. The unhinged look is never a good one and will be properly used for messaging against the Dems.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Dude your hyperbole is level 10 the last couple thread pages. U can tell Trump had a good week based on G1 rants.



http://thehill.com/homenews/media/39...ll-do-anything

Looks like some good ole in-fighting right before the midterms. The unhinged look is never a good one and will be properly used for messaging against the Dems.

Sad thing is chico you haven't a clue of what you're talking about and it's sad.To you it's a game ....lets see how we can piss off the Liberals.Strike one ...I am a republican and it kills me that trump is president and it makes you happy,see I know from personnel knowledge of trumps lying and his misdealing you are to young to think anything else but it's media lies becuase trump said so ,you're a lamb being lead to slaughter.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...ode-democracy/



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8b0e7942f79f



https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-c...ealdonaldtrump

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Right , not the president/dictator who is single handedly bringing fascism to the United States. I find funny your complaint about the "old USSR" considering who elected trump.I thought the trumplings love putin.

Can you define fascism?

Calling for the rule of law, and abiding by laws enacted by a democratically elected legislature is not fascism.

The old USSR was a strict socialist economic system. That is what I spoke of collapsing, yet you use the left's already tired refrain of Russia Russia Russia (said in Jan Brady's voice). The liberal trumpeting of russian interference is irony at it's best because it was Hillary's failed reset and general incompetence at foreign diplomacy that led Putin to loathe her. There has been conclusion after conclusion by Pres Obama, the intel agency's, etc that while Russia made extraordinary efforts to affect the outcome, in the end they did not. Simply put, basically half this country's electorate hated Hillary as much as the other half hated Trump.

But ultimately, Trump's election will put at least 2 textualists on the SC, and bring a better form of abiding by constitutional law to our country. If that makes you mad, so be it.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Can you define fascism?

Calling for the rule of law, and abiding by laws enacted by a democratically elected legislature is not fascism.

The old USSR was a strict socialist economic system. That is what I spoke of collapsing, yet you use the left's already tired refrain of Russia Russia Russia (said in Jan Brady's voice). The liberal trumpeting of russian interference is irony at it's best because it was Hillary's failed reset and general incompetence at foreign diplomacy that led Putin to loathe her. There has been conclusion after conclusion by Pres Obama, the intel agency's, etc that while Russia made extraordinary efforts to affect the outcome, in the end they did not. Simply put, basically half this country's electorate hated Hillary as much as the other half hated Trump.

But ultimately, Trump's election will put at least 2 textualists on the SC, and bring a better form of abiding by constitutional law to our country. If that makes you mad, so be it.

Anyone who is anti- “dude”....fascist