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View Poll Results: Who is your eye on in Training Camp (can select multiple)
Alex Smith 15 39.47%
Darrius Guice 23 60.53%
Jordan Reed 10 26.32%
Da'Ron Payne 10 26.32%
Other 5 13.16%
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Old 08-03-2018, 09:55 AM   #1
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I care much more about a RB reaching 1000 yards than a receiver. More balanced offenses spread it around in the air...and that's my wish. Plus...WR position has become role based in scheme and that's what I see with us. Im glad the role of WR disappointment Ryan Grant is off the team...I hope Doc doesn't replace that role.
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Old 08-03-2018, 12:23 PM   #2
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I care much more about a RB reaching 1000 yards than a receiver. More balanced offenses spread it around in the air...and that's my wish. Plus...WR position has become role based in scheme and that's what I see with us. Im glad the role of WR disappointment Ryan Grant is off the team...I hope Doc doesn't replace that role.
This is exactly correct. Balance is the key and has been our problem.
We have to get defense guessing and respect the run.
Get the LB's and Safety's running the wrong way and easily throw over them. This will also give our QB more time to throw.
Until that happens our offense will remain predictable and easy to stop.
We have major holes in our run blocking and still do. We did nothing to plug the Left Guard and Center positions with outstanding talent. We put an old band-aid that no longer sticks.
Running the ball and stopping the run are prerequisites to making the playoffs.
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Old 08-03-2018, 12:50 PM   #3
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This is exactly correct. Balance is the key and has been our problem.
We have to get defense guessing and respect the run.
Get the LB's and Safety's running the wrong way and easily throw over them. This will also give our QB more time to throw.
Until that happens our offense will remain predictable and easy to stop.
We have major holes in our run blocking and still do. We did nothing to plug the Left Guard and Center positions with outstanding talent. We put an old band-aid that no longer sticks.
Running the ball and stopping the run are prerequisites to making the playoffs.
We think the same way about winning football.

A false narrative is "oh its a passing league"...I think the more accurate statement is the rules have changed to making passing easier (PI rules, absurd contact rules, helmet to helmet, etc.) but if you want to control the game and win, you run the ball.

I think the Center position could surprise you...Im hoping it surprises. Simply no excuses for the LG, but that's water under the bridge.
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:05 PM   #4
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We think the same way about winning football.

A false narrative is "oh its a passing league"...I think the more accurate statement is the rules have changed to making passing easier (PI rules, absurd contact rules, helmet to helmet, etc.) but if you want to control the game and win, you run the ball.

I think the Center position could surprise you...Im hoping it surprises. Simply no excuses for the LG, but that's water under the bridge.
The better teams are able to run the ball.
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:12 PM   #5
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The better teams are able to run the ball.
But people get lost in the passing yards...its fantasy football impact of how we look at and interpret stats. Running the ball consistently is winning football.

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Old 08-03-2018, 01:57 PM   #6
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We think the same way about winning football.

A false narrative is "oh its a passing league"...I think the more accurate statement is the rules have changed to making passing easier (PI rules, absurd contact rules, helmet to helmet, etc.) but if you want to control the game and win, you run the ball.

I think the Center position could surprise you...Im hoping it surprises. Simply no excuses for the LG, but that's water under the bridge.
Agreed, I have high hopes on Roullier, his rookie campaign was solid.
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We think the same way about winning football.

A false narrative is "oh its a passing league"...I think the more accurate statement is the rules have changed to making passing easier (PI rules, absurd contact rules, helmet to helmet, etc.) but if you want to control the game and win, you run the ball.

I think the Center position could surprise you...Im hoping it surprises. Simply no excuses for the LG, but that's water under the bridge.
I hope so. But Hope is all I have. Not a great position to be in.
The lines have to be more of a priority to our Front Office and I feel like they care more about WR.
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I hope so. But Hope is all I have. Not a great position to be in.
The lines have to be more of a priority to our Front Office and I feel like they care more about WR.
We've been drafting OL and DL each year for a while now... Moses, Long, Scherff, Allen, Ioannidis, Payne, Kouandjio, Roullier, Christian, Settle
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You get a 1000 yards, and you get a 1000 yards, and you get a 1000 yards. Everyone gets a 1000 yards. Mmmmm koolaid.
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Smith is going to hand out 1000 yards like candy
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Well, we've already got significant money invested in Williams and Moses and very soon Scherff is going cash in. Some roster spots have to be filled with picks and cheaper vets.

Saying Doctson rarely plays is a bit of stretch. He was active all 16 games last year.
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Well, we've already got significant money invested in Williams and Moses and very soon Scherff is going cash in. Some roster spots have to be filled with picks and cheaper vets.

Saying Doctson rarely plays is a bit of stretch. He was active all 16 games last year.
We also have the 7th most cap dollars invested in the line per OTC. Falcons are #1 at 47M, we have 40M.

Interestingly the Patriots have the second least invested in OL, and have a star QB while spending middle of the road (13th most) QB money
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Did not like the Richardson signing at all. Not sure what they see/saw in him. Deep speed is fine but if you're hurt a lot and can only do one thing then what good is he? Hope it works out but we've been down this type of free agent signing before.
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Did not like the Richardson signing at all. Not sure what they see/saw in him. Deep speed is fine but if you're hurt a lot and can only do one thing then what good is he? Hope it works out but we've been down this type of free agent signing before.
I'm just the opposite, I love the Richardson signing. I think injuries in these type receivers (ala DJax) are just a part of the position, but especially if they are there for the playoff time, stretching the field can be critical for the rest of the team's success.
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I'm just the opposite, I love the Richardson signing. I think injuries in these type receivers (ala DJax) are just a part of the position, but especially if they are there for the playoff time, stretching the field can be critical for the rest of the team's success.
Agree. A legitimate deep threat is very important to the success of our offense.
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