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View Poll Results: Who is your eye on in Training Camp (can select multiple)
Alex Smith 15 39.47%
Darrius Guice 23 60.53%
Jordan Reed 10 26.32%
Da'Ron Payne 10 26.32%
Other 5 13.16%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-03-2018, 09:55 AM   #1
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I care much more about a RB reaching 1000 yards than a receiver. More balanced offenses spread it around in the air...and that's my wish. Plus...WR position has become role based in scheme and that's what I see with us. Im glad the role of WR disappointment Ryan Grant is off the team...I hope Doc doesn't replace that role.
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Old 08-03-2018, 12:23 PM   #2
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I care much more about a RB reaching 1000 yards than a receiver. More balanced offenses spread it around in the air...and that's my wish. Plus...WR position has become role based in scheme and that's what I see with us. Im glad the role of WR disappointment Ryan Grant is off the team...I hope Doc doesn't replace that role.
This is exactly correct. Balance is the key and has been our problem.
We have to get defense guessing and respect the run.
Get the LB's and Safety's running the wrong way and easily throw over them. This will also give our QB more time to throw.
Until that happens our offense will remain predictable and easy to stop.
We have major holes in our run blocking and still do. We did nothing to plug the Left Guard and Center positions with outstanding talent. We put an old band-aid that no longer sticks.
Running the ball and stopping the run are prerequisites to making the playoffs.
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Old 08-03-2018, 12:50 PM   #3
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This is exactly correct. Balance is the key and has been our problem.
We have to get defense guessing and respect the run.
Get the LB's and Safety's running the wrong way and easily throw over them. This will also give our QB more time to throw.
Until that happens our offense will remain predictable and easy to stop.
We have major holes in our run blocking and still do. We did nothing to plug the Left Guard and Center positions with outstanding talent. We put an old band-aid that no longer sticks.
Running the ball and stopping the run are prerequisites to making the playoffs.
We think the same way about winning football.

A false narrative is "oh its a passing league"...I think the more accurate statement is the rules have changed to making passing easier (PI rules, absurd contact rules, helmet to helmet, etc.) but if you want to control the game and win, you run the ball.

I think the Center position could surprise you...Im hoping it surprises. Simply no excuses for the LG, but that's water under the bridge.
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:05 PM   #4
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We think the same way about winning football.

A false narrative is "oh its a passing league"...I think the more accurate statement is the rules have changed to making passing easier (PI rules, absurd contact rules, helmet to helmet, etc.) but if you want to control the game and win, you run the ball.

I think the Center position could surprise you...Im hoping it surprises. Simply no excuses for the LG, but that's water under the bridge.
The better teams are able to run the ball.
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The better teams are able to run the ball.
But people get lost in the passing yards...its fantasy football impact of how we look at and interpret stats. Running the ball consistently is winning football.

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But people get lost in the passing yards...its fantasy football impact of how we look at and interrupt stats. Running the ball consistently is winning football.
I agree.
People forget that football is still a very physically violent sport and when you can knock the snot out of your opponent, they are less likely to want to come back for more.
But the biggest old school lesson people forget is when playoff time comes it is late December or January. Cold weather, snow, cold rain, heavy winds can lead to less passing and more running. And the teams that can run and stop the run will have an advantage.
I realize some pussy teams have dome stadiums, but many conference finals go through places like Green Bay, Denver, New England, Philly, Pittsburgh, New York, Chicago and DC that still play outdoors. It is usually cold as fuck. Even places like North Carolina and southern teams on occasion get cold weather during that time.
Your team has to adapt to the potential bad elements.
I want our team to go back to smash mouth football. I do not want to be a finesse passing team. Especially because we are deficient at one aspect of football. Balance is key,
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We think the same way about winning football.

A false narrative is "oh its a passing league"...I think the more accurate statement is the rules have changed to making passing easier (PI rules, absurd contact rules, helmet to helmet, etc.) but if you want to control the game and win, you run the ball.

I think the Center position could surprise you...Im hoping it surprises. Simply no excuses for the LG, but that's water under the bridge.
Agreed, I have high hopes on Roullier, his rookie campaign was solid.
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We think the same way about winning football.

A false narrative is "oh its a passing league"...I think the more accurate statement is the rules have changed to making passing easier (PI rules, absurd contact rules, helmet to helmet, etc.) but if you want to control the game and win, you run the ball.

I think the Center position could surprise you...Im hoping it surprises. Simply no excuses for the LG, but that's water under the bridge.
I hope so. But Hope is all I have. Not a great position to be in.
The lines have to be more of a priority to our Front Office and I feel like they care more about WR.
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I hope so. But Hope is all I have. Not a great position to be in.
The lines have to be more of a priority to our Front Office and I feel like they care more about WR.
We've been drafting OL and DL each year for a while now... Moses, Long, Scherff, Allen, Ioannidis, Payne, Kouandjio, Roullier, Christian, Settle
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We've been drafting OL and DL each year for a while now... Moses, Long, Scherff, Allen, Ioannidis, Payne, Kouandjio, Roullier, Christian, Settle
Yes we have stepped up drafting more lineman.
But I was referring to signing Paul Richardson an injury prone WR to a five-year 40 million deal, averaging out to $8 million per year.
Add injury prone Jordan Reed's 5 year, $46,750,000 contract including a $9,000,000 signing bonus, $22,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $9,350,000.
Add to that we drafted first round Josh Doctson and he also rarely plays.
That is a ton of investment on three receivers that have rarely played an entire season healthy in the NFL.
On a team that last year that had a ton of injuries. Just questioning the logic.
Could we have spent some of that investment on a pro bowl caliber LG?
The LG we did get is an injury prone re-tread.
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